Chiefs Chiefs record the next 3 years. Your call. - Page 2

**BigRedChief** · 07-22-2009, 07:26 AM

I'm thinking....
2009-2010
6-10

2010-2011
8-8

2011-2012
13-3 Playoff run

Some of Pioli's draft picks concern me but its a "In Pioli we trust" mentality for me right now. I just can't believe that all that success in NE was because of Bellicheck. I like his mentality and approach, so far.

Haley conerced me because he was the NFL flavor of the month after the Super Bowl but after I read more about that guy, he just might work out after all. Pioli rode with the guy on road trips to scout players, worked with him as a coach, got to know him as a person and evaluate his coaching knowledge way before this level. Pioli picked him, so that enough for me, right now. He's defintely got the NFL background. How cool would that have been to watch pre-draft film of Lynn Swan at 11 years old with your Dad. We tried having a "players" coach. That didn't work out so well. Why not give a Parcells disciple and disipline approach a try?

sorry if a repost, but its the offseason so if your ticked off...

milkman · 07-22-2009, 07:56 AM

I'd like to get a look at the progress of this team this year, to see how Cassel adjusts to a new team with less talent, and how Haley manages games before I start thinking about next season and the one following.

There are just too many factors involved.

Reerun_KC · 07-22-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

I gather you are not a Pioli believer.

I figure good or bad the team is going to improve greatly in year two because everyone will still be bought into the system and the conditioning will be producing results. The question, will the team still believe in year three?

I am a Pioli believer, but also realize the mess this team is in when Herm was the coach..

My opinion is that in year 4-8 we will be strong and competing... I think Pioli is a good choice, but it would take a God like GM to turn around any Herm Edwards led team in 3 years...

Mr. Arrowhead · 07-22-2009, 08:06 AM

1st- 7-9
2nd- 10-6
3rd 12-4

Chief Faithful · 07-22-2009, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I am a Pioli believer, but also realize the mess this team is in when Herm was the coach..

My opinion is that in year 4-8 we will be strong and competing... I think Pioli is a good choice, but it would take a God like GM to turn around any Herm Edwards led team in 3 years...

You talk like someone who has been traumatized by the Peterson years. Pioli has shown an ability to identify areas of weakness and fill them with veterans of character who are great examples for the young guys developing under them. Also, Pioli has not, todate, let an obvious weakness go unaddressed while using the development excuse (this is why I turned on Peterson/Herm last year). So, while I agree it maybe 4 years before we see the solid long term results I think we will see significant improvement fast. Still, I am not ready to believe in more than 6 wins next year even in the most optimistic view.

Chief Faithful · 07-22-2009, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

1st- 7-9
2nd- 10-6
3rd 12-4

Hand me a pair of those glasses, I'm ready.

milkman · 07-22-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

You talk like someone who has been traumatized by the Peterson years. Pioli has shown an ability to identify areas of weakness and fill them with veterans of character who are great examples for the young guys developing under them. Also, Pioli has not, todate,let an obvious weakness go unaddressed while using the development excuse (this is why I turned on Peterson/Herm last year). So, while I agree it maybe 4 years before we see the solid long term results I think we will see significant improvement fast. Still, I am not ready to believe in more than 6 wins next year even in the most optimistic view.

Damian McIntosh.

Great Expectations · 07-22-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

2009-2010
4-12

2010-2011
7-9 Just miss the playoffs by a couple of games, but the true fans are excited as we are just a player away from being elite..

2011-2012
10-6 1st round playoff exit, Feels good to be back to real Chiefs football

My thoughts exactly, and I'll be happy if it goes this way.

I was thinking 4 wins this year, then 6, and 10 wins in the 3rd year. We still have to solidify our offensive line and learn a new complicated Defensive system before we win more than 1/2 of our games. It wouldn't hurt to add an offensive threat either.

oldandslow · 07-22-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

1st- 7-9
2nd- 10-6
3rd 12-4

I am all in with the new regime.

9-7 (win division - yeah, it's that bad. First round exit in playoffs)
11-5 (Lose in AFC Championship Game)
13-3 (SB Champs)
12-4 (Repeat!!!)

FAX · 07-22-2009, 08:21 AM

I'll play ...

2009-2010 (that's now, right?) I think we'll win a couple of home games due to Haley's emphasis on that (more than any other reason). I also think we'll sweep the goats and the silver and stupid, so ...

6-10

2010-2011 Haley's conditioning program and attitude begin to take effect. Pioli finds him some defense in FA. We draft a starter.

9-7

2011-2012 Haley is sent to a mental institution for a rest. No problem though. Pioli brings in Parcells as interim/temporary HC. We draft another starter on offense and further shore up the defense through FA.

12-4 Playoffs

FAX

Pablo · 07-22-2009, 08:22 AM

1st - 19-0
2nd - 19-0
3rd - 19-0

Sounds about right.

**BigRedChief** · 07-22-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I'd like to get a look at the progress of this team this year, to see how Cassel adjusts to a new team with less talent, and how Haley manages games before I start thinking about next season and the one following.

There are just too many factors involved.

It's a internet BB, it's an opinion based on right now, not what we think next year. jeeezzz

milkman · 07-22-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

It's a internet BB, it's an opinion based on right now, not what we think next year. jeeezzz

And my opinion is that I don't know enough about this team this year to begin to make any guesses about next year and the year after.

Farzin · 07-22-2009, 08:37 AM

2009: 6-10 -- Improvement

2010: 11-5 -- If I remember correctly, the Chiefs play the NFC West and they've only lost twice in the past eight meetings against the NFC West. The Chiefs also have done well against the NFC West in the past so I'm hoping they can keep it up. Haley will learn from his first year as head coach. If the Chiefs keep their draft picks, they have a first rounder and two second rounders. I'm sure the Chiefs will use those wisely by either drafting the right player available or by trading one of those picks (with possibly another late pick) for a good player. The Chiefs will be a team to watch out for in the division.

2011: 10-6 -- Aaron Rodgers, Adrian Peterson, Jay Cutler, and Matt Stafford will be key guys to watch out for in the NFC. I'm thinking by 2011, the AFC West will become a very competitive division. Hopefully this will be Todd Haley's third year with the Chiefs. He'll be ready to help the Chiefs stay over .500.

SenselessChiefsFan · 07-22-2009, 08:37 AM

I think they will be 7-9 this year. The offensive line is better and LJ will be pretty dependable. Matt Cassel provides a steady hand at QB. The AFC West is crap this year and the Chiefs will probably sneak up on some teams this year.

I think the defense will improve quite a bit just buy having congruency (sp?) in philosophy.

I think they will be 9-7 next year. I think the team will be much better, but they will play the AFC South next year, and the NFC West. I think the NFC West is on the way up. Plus, other teams will have a full offseason to pick apart the way the offense and defense does things.

And, I think 2011 will be a scab/lockout season.... so it won't much matter.

Chiefnj2 · 07-22-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I think the defense will improve quite a bit just buy having congruency (sp?) in philosophy.

One of the biggest criticisms of Clancy in Arizona was his inconsistency week to week.

07-22-2009, 07:26 AM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $2649627 VARSITY	Chiefs record the next 3 years. Your call. I'm thinking.... 2009-2010 6-10 2010-2011 8-8 2011-2012 13-3 Playoff run Some of Pioli's draft picks concern me but its a "In Pioli we trust" mentality for me right now. I just can't believe that all that success in NE was because of Bellicheck. I like his mentality and approach, so far. Haley conerced me because he was the NFL flavor of the month after the Super Bowl but after I read more about that guy, he just might work out after all. Pioli rode with the guy on road trips to scout players, worked with him as a coach, got to know him as a person and evaluate his coaching knowledge way before this level. Pioli picked him, so that enough for me, right now. He's defintely got the NFL background. How cool would that have been to watch pre-draft film of Lynn Swan at 11 years old with your Dad. We tried having a "players" coach. That didn't work out so well. Why not give a Parcells disciple and disipline approach a try? sorry if a repost, but its the offseason so if your ticked off...
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07-22-2009, 07:56 AM	#16
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	I'd like to get a look at the progress of this team this year, to see how Cassel adjusts to a new team with less talent, and how Haley manages games before I start thinking about next season and the one following. There are just too many factors involved. __________________
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FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	I'll play ... 2009-2010 (that's now, right?) I think we'll win a couple of home games due to Haley's emphasis on that (more than any other reason). I also think we'll sweep the goats and the silver and stupid, so ... 6-10 2010-2011 Haley's conditioning program and attitude begin to take effect. Pioli finds him some defense in FA. We draft a starter. 9-7 2011-2012 Haley is sent to a mental institution for a rest. No problem though. Pioli brings in Parcells as interim/temporary HC. We draft another starter on offense and further shore up the defense through FA. 12-4 Playoffs FAX
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07-22-2009, 08:37 AM	#28
Farzin Host of "The Chiefs Zone" Join Date: Jun 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	2009: 6-10 -- Improvement 2010: 11-5 -- If I remember correctly, the Chiefs play the NFC West and they've only lost twice in the past eight meetings against the NFC West. The Chiefs also have done well against the NFC West in the past so I'm hoping they can keep it up. Haley will learn from his first year as head coach. If the Chiefs keep their draft picks, they have a first rounder and two second rounders. I'm sure the Chiefs will use those wisely by either drafting the right player available or by trading one of those picks (with possibly another late pick) for a good player. The Chiefs will be a team to watch out for in the division. 2011: 10-6 -- Aaron Rodgers, Adrian Peterson, Jay Cutler, and Matt Stafford will be key guys to watch out for in the NFC. I'm thinking by 2011, the AFC West will become a very competitive division. Hopefully this will be Todd Haley's third year with the Chiefs. He'll be ready to help the Chiefs stay over .500. __________________ http://www.Facebook.com/TheChiefsZone http://Twitter.com/TheChiefsZone TheSportsStuff.com/?cat=20
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07-22-2009, 08:37 AM	#29
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	I think they will be 7-9 this year. The offensive line is better and LJ will be pretty dependable. Matt Cassel provides a steady hand at QB. The AFC West is crap this year and the Chiefs will probably sneak up on some teams this year. I think the defense will improve quite a bit just buy having congruency (sp?) in philosophy. I think they will be 9-7 next year. I think the team will be much better, but they will play the AFC South next year, and the NFC West. I think the NFC West is on the way up. Plus, other teams will have a full offseason to pick apart the way the offense and defense does things. And, I think 2011 will be a scab/lockout season.... so it won't much matter.
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