Chiefs Former Chief Lake Dawson the new Browns GM? - Page 2

shaneo69 · 12-26-2009, 12:20 PM

Cleveland Browns President Mike Holmgren May Be Targeting Packers Front Office
by Daniel Wolf
December 25, 2009

With Cleveland Browns owner Randy Lerner officially announcing his newest holiday gift the week after Christmas in president Mike Holmgren's hiring, many reporters and writers have been speculating what moves Holmgren will make once in office.

The obvious moves will be paying Josh Cribbs more money and deciding on what to do at the quarterback position and with head coach Eric Mangini, but what has not been talked about is what Holmgren will do with the vacant general manager position in the front office.

Hard-core Browns fan speculate that their beloved Bernie Kosar will take the role and get trained at the same time, but in reality, that will probably not happen because Kosar is more of a consultant to Lerner than anything else.

Holmgren may look to one of his former teams in the Green Bay Packers where he still has several ties within their front office.

Two guys who Holmgren may consider for the Browns' general manager could be one of the Packers' two Co-Directors of Football Operations, John Schneider and Reggie McKenzie.

Another name may be Lake Dawson, who was with Holmgren in Seattle and now is the head of pro personnel for the Titans.

Schneider has a history with Holmgren going back to 1992 when both were with the Packers. He was an intern for former Packers general manager Ron Wolf, but quickly moved up the ranks.

His greatest skill is Schneider's extensive knowledge of professional and college sports personnel. He was also in charge of the NFL personnel department as vice president of personnel in Washington when Marty Schottenheimer was at the helm.

McKenzie does not have much history with Holmgren, but will also be considered since he was head of pro personnel for the Packers since 1997, until his recent promotion to Co-Director of Football Operations.

McKenzie work for both former general manager Wolf and current general manager Ted Thompson both of whom still have relationships with Holmgren.

Dawson is more of a dark horse since he is younger than the other men (37), but he has shot up through the ranks rather quickly and he was Holmgren's director of personnel in Seattle in 1999.

The Packers may also lose more of their scouting department than they may want since some of their scouts may want to take a promotion to come to the Cleveland to build up the scouting and personnel departments for the Browns.

Many speculations and no one really knows what Holmgren is planning, but it will make for some exciting articles and news in the next several months.

milkman · 12-26-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo

And want to be music star...(Also see David Soul)

So, did David Soul give up on us?

Mojo Jojo · 12-26-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

So, did David Soul give up on us?

Just like most Chiefs fans/ticket holders

Great job on the comeback

**Easy 6** · 12-26-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

So, did David Soul give up on us?

No, but Don Johnson sure did...

**Bowser** · 12-26-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Good for him. I had no idea he was doing this.

I remember when he was a rookie, he took a reverse and went for a long touchdown (may have been preseason), and I had high hopes for him. Sadly, that's pretty much my only memory of Lake Dawson.

I remember Lake's first TD catch was from Montana, a pass he caught while sitting on his butt in the EZ. The game was against Seattle, and he came in for an injured J.J. Birden.

**Bowser** · 12-26-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

No, but Don Johnson sure did...

You can't see it, but I just took a spork to both my ears.

milkman · 12-26-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

No, but Don Johnson sure did...

OK, my ears are bleeding now, thank you very much.

I also imagine you missed the joke regarding David Soul.

kcfanXIII · 12-26-2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Good for him. I had no idea he was doing this.

I remember when he was a rookie, he took a reverse and went for a long touchdown (may have been preseason), and I had high hopes for him. Sadly, that's pretty much my only memory of Lake Dawson.

i agree its good to see him have some success. my best memory of him was on one of the tecmo bowls. pretty good possession receiver, helped me take the chiefs to a few super bowls. unfrotunately, he is one of the first i remember, in a long line of WRs that haven't lived up to their hype.

**BossChief** · 12-26-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrum_69

Tamarick Vanover and Bam Morris run a hot dog stand and your mom is their best customer. She always ends up leaving with a Haagen-Daas mustache...cept they dont serve ice cream.

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Gracie Dean · 12-26-2009, 09:34 PM

seems he got injured easily

**Gonzo** · 12-26-2009, 09:40 PM

Larry Atkins FTW.
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Reerun_KC · 12-26-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

No, but Don Johnson sure did...

That blew, I totally forgot about that one... Dweezil Zappa was sick on the six string. But Don Johnson?

Deberg_1990 · 12-26-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

Unfrotunately, he is one of the first i remember, in a long line of WRs that haven't lived up to their hype.

Hype? What hype? He was a 4th or 5th rounder....he was ok for what he was.
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Royal Fanatic · 12-26-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas Chief

Wasn't it Lake Dawson that Grbac threw incomplete to in the endzone on the last play of the '98 playoff loss versus the Donks? I remember he jumped in the air and it him in the chest and flopped to the ground incomplete. That finish is burned in my brain for eternity. Then again it could have been Rison for all I know...
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Hey, Grbac couldn't throw the ball and catch it too.

Redrum_69 · 12-27-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

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save that weak sauce for your mom, she needs to place it on the mantle right next to your purple ribbon for second from last place in the quadriplegic shuttle run

Marcellus · 12-27-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Hype? What hype? He was a 4th or 5th rounder....he was ok for what he was.
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Actually he was pretty good but he ****ed up both knees ending his career.

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shaneo69 Smug Weasel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bleachers at Busch Casino cash: $10004900	Former Chief Lake Dawson the new Browns GM? Cleveland Browns President Mike Holmgren May Be Targeting Packers Front Office by Daniel Wolf December 25, 2009 With Cleveland Browns owner Randy Lerner officially announcing his newest holiday gift the week after Christmas in president Mike Holmgren's hiring, many reporters and writers have been speculating what moves Holmgren will make once in office. The obvious moves will be paying Josh Cribbs more money and deciding on what to do at the quarterback position and with head coach Eric Mangini, but what has not been talked about is what Holmgren will do with the vacant general manager position in the front office. Hard-core Browns fan speculate that their beloved Bernie Kosar will take the role and get trained at the same time, but in reality, that will probably not happen because Kosar is more of a consultant to Lerner than anything else. Holmgren may look to one of his former teams in the Green Bay Packers where he still has several ties within their front office. Two guys who Holmgren may consider for the Browns' general manager could be one of the Packers' two Co-Directors of Football Operations, John Schneider and Reggie McKenzie. Another name may be Lake Dawson, who was with Holmgren in Seattle and now is the head of pro personnel for the Titans. Schneider has a history with Holmgren going back to 1992 when both were with the Packers. He was an intern for former Packers general manager Ron Wolf, but quickly moved up the ranks. His greatest skill is Schneider's extensive knowledge of professional and college sports personnel. He was also in charge of the NFL personnel department as vice president of personnel in Washington when Marty Schottenheimer was at the helm. McKenzie does not have much history with Holmgren, but will also be considered since he was head of pro personnel for the Packers since 1997, until his recent promotion to Co-Director of Football Operations. McKenzie work for both former general manager Wolf and current general manager Ted Thompson both of whom still have relationships with Holmgren. Dawson is more of a dark horse since he is younger than the other men (37), but he has shot up through the ranks rather quickly and he was Holmgren's director of personnel in Seattle in 1999. The Packers may also lose more of their scouting department than they may want since some of their scouts may want to take a promotion to come to the Cleveland to build up the scouting and personnel departments for the Browns. Many speculations and no one really knows what Holmgren is planning, but it will make for some exciting articles and news in the next several months.
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