Chiefs Eric Berry debate article - Page 2

Hammock Parties · 05-07-2010, 10:27 AM

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Over the next two weeks, we’ll dissect the impact of the Chiefs draft picks and the top un-drafted free agents the team signed that may or may not help the Chiefs win more games in 2010. First up Tennessee Safety Eric Berry.

Josh Scotten (Point):

When former Tennessee defensive coordinator, Monte Kiffin converted Berry to a more prototypical safety when he revamped the Volunteer defense, however Berry’s numbers dropped significantly after the conversion. Even with the help of one of the best front sevens in college football last season which included big Dan Williams, who was drafted 26th overall in last months draft, Berry’s numbers plummeted from a combined 12 int. his first two seasons to only two in his final frame as a Volunteer.

With the Chiefs boasting one of the NFL’s most forgettable defensive lines a year ago, which often left its defensive backs on islands for longer stints than Gilligan and his crew, this could pose a significant problem for the much revered young safety.

Although often referred to as one of the most athletic safeties to ever come out of college football, Berry’s athleticism could potentially be a hindrance to his success.

With Berry’s ability to stuff the run, sometimes he bites too soon and that makes him susceptible to play action passes. You add to this a propensity to shoulder tackle instead of wrapping up oncoming ball carriers, he starts to resemble a few former Chiefs, Dexter McCleon and Bernard Pollard.

New Chiefs Defensive Coordinator, Romeo Crennel may be able to solve what could be simple mental errors. But when you factor Berry’s flaws they could potentially thwart Berry’s overall success.

The safety position requires raw instinct and unflappable reaction time. If he’s ever feels overloaded, that could result in sluggish play and another early first round blunder by the Kansas City Chiefs.

Nicholas Athan (Counterpoint):

There were plenty of people who were thorwn off the scent about the Chiefs interest in Berry. I was one of them. I never thought drafting, arguably the best safety to come out of any NFL draft the last ten years, was worthy of the fifth overall pick. But since he was drafted, I changed my mind.

After speaking with numerous people in Tennessee about Berry, the only flaw I could find is that he loves to eat at . I’m not a fan of fried foods because I think they are bad for you overall health.

But if that’s the worst thing that he brings to the Chiefs, I can live with it.

Seriously, there are certainly issues with his game. But the biggest hurdle he has to overcome in Kansas City is really out of his control. If the front seven of the Chiefs plays as poorly as it did a year ago, Berry could be the second coming of Superman, and he won’t impact this defense.

However, because of his talent, Berry could overcome the shortcomings in front of him. He’s smart, studies game films and might be the most prepared college player in the last five years who has the chops to be an NFL ready play-making machine.

What he has that NO other college prospects has right now is an unwavering confidence that won’t change even if he makes a mistake on the field. In basketball terms, he’d be called a floor leader.

I don’t think Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli would have taken Berry after he whiffed on Tyson Jackson last year. It seems this time that the Chiefs did their homework and Berry could have an impact on this defense that we’ve not seen around these parts since the late Derrick Thomas.

Brock · 05-07-2010, 11:19 AM

God, what garbage.

Hammock Parties · 05-07-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

why do we put up with this spam?

It's not spam. I don't work for WPI.

Chiefnj2 · 05-07-2010, 11:20 AM

"Even with the help of one of the best front sevens in college football last season ..."

One of the best front 7's in football??

In terms of rushing yards per game Tennessee was 65th in the nation. Average yards per carry they were 77th in the nation. 63rd in the nation in tackles for a loss. That's one of the best front seven's in the country?? Which country, Somalia??

Well, maybe they weren't good against the run, but they could get to the QB, right? Ahhh, nope. Wrong again, WPI - Tennessee was tied with such defensive powerhouses as Notre Dame and Toledo with only 20 sacks on the year, or 84th in the nation.

In conclusion, WPI sucks more than Tennessee's front 7.

King_Chief_Fan · 05-07-2010, 11:20 AM

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Athan needs to donate his brain for medical research.
Posted via Mobile Device

that brain hasn't been used....

**the Talking Can** · 05-07-2010, 11:21 AM

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I don’t think Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli would have taken Berry after he whiffed on Tyson Jackson last year.

read that....read it again...pull out your red pen

**the Talking Can** · 05-07-2010, 11:21 AM

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After speaking with numerous people in Tennessee about Berry, the only flaw I could find is that he loves to eat at . I’m not a fan of fried foods because I think they are bad for you overall health.

$99.99 a month

Otter · 05-07-2010, 11:22 AM

You're a glutton for punishment GoChiefs.

HotRoute · 05-07-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

It's not even a debate....it's reeruned and I feel robbed of my time.

exactly . .. . . .

sedated · 05-07-2010, 11:27 AM

doesn't that place have editors? jesus, it looks like an essay from a special needs child.

Fish · 05-07-2010, 11:45 AM

I also like to eat at .

Fansy the Famous Bard · 05-07-2010, 11:47 AM

I read it a second time thinking my comprehension had been left at the nightstand this morning.

Now I feel like an idiot for having read that "article" twice.

Fish · 05-07-2010, 11:47 AM

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What he has that NO other college prospects has right now is an unwavering confidence that won’t change even if he makes a mistake on the field.

**SAUTO** · 05-07-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

I also like to eat at .

so you are one of the guys who does more than have vaginal intercourse with your SO at that "time"?

Hog's Gone Fishin · 05-07-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

"Even with the help of one of the best front sevens in college football last season ..."

One of the best front 7's in football??

In terms of rushing yards per game Tennessee was 65th in the nation. Average yards per carry they were 77th in the nation. 63rd in the nation in tackles for a loss. That's one of the best front seven's in the country?? Which country, Somalia??

Well, maybe they weren't good against the run, but they could get to the QB, right? Ahhh, nope. Wrong again, WPI - Tennessee was tied with such defensive powerhouses as Notre Dame and Toledo with only 20 sacks on the year, or 84th in the nation.

In conclusion, WPI sucks more than Tennessee's front 7.

True this!

**the Talking Can** · 05-07-2010, 12:23 PM

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After speaking with numerous people in Tennessee about Berry, the only flaw I could find is that he loves to eat at .

$99.99 a month

05-07-2010, 10:27 AM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $3240478	Eric Berry debate article http://kan.scout.com/2/968525.html Over the next two weeks, we’ll dissect the impact of the Chiefs draft picks and the top un-drafted free agents the team signed that may or may not help the Chiefs win more games in 2010. First up Tennessee Safety Eric Berry. Josh Scotten (Point): When former Tennessee defensive coordinator, Monte Kiffin converted Berry to a more prototypical safety when he revamped the Volunteer defense, however Berry’s numbers dropped significantly after the conversion. Even with the help of one of the best front sevens in college football last season which included big Dan Williams, who was drafted 26th overall in last months draft, Berry’s numbers plummeted from a combined 12 int. his first two seasons to only two in his final frame as a Volunteer. With the Chiefs boasting one of the NFL’s most forgettable defensive lines a year ago, which often left its defensive backs on islands for longer stints than Gilligan and his crew, this could pose a significant problem for the much revered young safety. Although often referred to as one of the most athletic safeties to ever come out of college football, Berry’s athleticism could potentially be a hindrance to his success. With Berry’s ability to stuff the run, sometimes he bites too soon and that makes him susceptible to play action passes. You add to this a propensity to shoulder tackle instead of wrapping up oncoming ball carriers, he starts to resemble a few former Chiefs, Dexter McCleon and Bernard Pollard. New Chiefs Defensive Coordinator, Romeo Crennel may be able to solve what could be simple mental errors. But when you factor Berry’s flaws they could potentially thwart Berry’s overall success. The safety position requires raw instinct and unflappable reaction time. If he’s ever feels overloaded, that could result in sluggish play and another early first round blunder by the Kansas City Chiefs. Nicholas Athan (Counterpoint): There were plenty of people who were thorwn off the scent about the Chiefs interest in Berry. I was one of them. I never thought drafting, arguably the best safety to come out of any NFL draft the last ten years, was worthy of the fifth overall pick. But since he was drafted, I changed my mind. After speaking with numerous people in Tennessee about Berry, the only flaw I could find is that he loves to eat at . I’m not a fan of fried foods because I think they are bad for you overall health. But if that’s the worst thing that he brings to the Chiefs, I can live with it. Seriously, there are certainly issues with his game. But the biggest hurdle he has to overcome in Kansas City is really out of his control. If the front seven of the Chiefs plays as poorly as it did a year ago, Berry could be the second coming of Superman, and he won’t impact this defense. However, because of his talent, Berry could overcome the shortcomings in front of him. He’s smart, studies game films and might be the most prepared college player in the last five years who has the chops to be an NFL ready play-making machine. What he has that NO other college prospects has right now is an unwavering confidence that won’t change even if he makes a mistake on the field. In basketball terms, he’d be called a floor leader. I don’t think Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli would have taken Berry after he whiffed on Tyson Jackson last year. It seems this time that the Chiefs did their homework and Berry could have an impact on this defense that we’ve not seen around these parts since the late Derrick Thomas.
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