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ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-01-2011, 05:47 PM

SI_PeterKing Peter King
For fb fans, Doty's ruling that NFL can't use $4B in TV money for '11 expenses during lockout is gd news. Could push sides to legit talks.

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Doty ruled for Players in TV Case. Overturned Burbank's Decision. All TV Contracts violate CBA. Separate earing to come on the damages.

Mr. Laz · 03-01-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think it's clear that most people don't understand why the union and owners are at odds.

oh ... here we go

the old "everyone else is not as smart as me" argument by dane

you never do get over yourself, do you?

**Bugeater** · 03-01-2011, 06:29 PM

I'm not sure how one can pick a side when both of them are motivated by the same thing.

Brock · 03-01-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

oh ... here we go

the old "everyone else is not as smart as me" argument by dane

you never do get over yourself, do you?

I've been waiting for you to explain why you think MLB is "all screwed up" because the players make too much money for a while. Feel free to do it here.

tk13 · 03-01-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

I'm not sure how one can pick a side when both of them are motivated by the same thing.

Go team! Win that money!

That aside... Dane is probably going to be right from the standpoint that people are going to think players want more money.

But that's not really the case here. It's the owners saying they aren't making enough money and they gave away too much to the players in the last CBA.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-01-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

oh ... here we go

the old "everyone else is not as smart as me" argument by dane

you never do get over yourself, do you?

What the **** is wrong with your vagina today, Laz?

Why don't you explain to us WHY the union and owners are at odds, instead of acting like a ****ing jackass.

IF that's even possible.

WV · 03-01-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

How does keeping the revenue split the same = "paying the players more"?

Unless it's changed recently it isn't the same.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-01-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

I'm not sure how one can pick a side when both of them are motivated by the same thing.

Pretty much.

Mr. Laz · 03-01-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Admittedly, I'm kind of on the side of the players. Basically, because they are the product and its the reason I watch.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why ANYONE would cuddle up to the owners nutsack, like a certain poster here is...

HBD, Laz

because i'm looking at it from what is best for the fans not player hero worship.

The more the NFLPA wins, the more "power" they get ... the more power they get, the more the NFL will become like the MLB.

A powerful NFLPA will lead to things like:

1. guaranteed contracts
2. no rookie wage scale
3. no franchise/transition tags
4. no RFA year
5. no salary cap
6. no trade clauses

pretty much everything else that lets MLB players be lazy ****s.

I love how you taking the players side is just ... taking their side. But me siding with the owners is "cuddling up to the owners nutsack".

Mr. Laz · 03-01-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What the **** is wrong with your vagina today, Laz?

Why don't you explain to us WHY the union and owners are at odds, instead of acting like a ****ing jackass.

IF that's even possible.

and again

it can't be possible that your really don't realize what a complete ****ing asshole you are

milkman · 03-01-2011, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WVChiefFan

I'm with you....I think the owners should tell them to take the current offer or leave it. I don't see how the players have a leg to stand on.

The owners are the ones with no leg to stand on, unless they can produce proof that the last agreement has hurt them financially.

The fact that they have been unwilling to open their books suggest they have something to hide.

If the players decertify, and then file a lawsuit, the owners will be compelled by a judge to open those books.

When they do, if, as the union believes, it shows just the opposite, the owners will lose.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-01-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

because i'm looking at it from what is best for the fans not player hero worship.

The more the NFLPA wins, the more "power" they get ... the more power they get, the more the NFL will become like the MLB.

A powerful NFLPA will lead to things like:

1. guaranteed contracts
2. no rookie wage scale
3. no franchise/transition tags
4. no RFA year
5. no salary cap
6. no trade clauses

pretty much everything else that lets MLB players be lazy ****s.

I love how you taking the players side is just ... taking their side. But me siding with the owners is "cuddling up to the owners nutsack".

Wow, your assumptions couldn't be more asinine but I guess that's what we've come to expect from you.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-01-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

and again

it can't be possible that your really don't realize what a complete ****ing asshole you are

Come on, Laz, tell us exactly what issue is between the union and owners.

Tell us, V-boy.

milkman · 03-01-2011, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

because i'm looking at it from what is best for the fans not player hero worship.

The more the NFLPA wins, the more "power" they get ... the more power they get, the more the NFL will become like the MLB.

A powerful NFLPA will lead to things like:

1. guaranteed contracts
2. no rookie wage scale
3. no franchise/transition tags
4. no RFA year
5. no salary cap
6. no trade clauses

pretty much everything else that lets MLB players be lazy ****s.

I love how you taking the players side is just ... taking their side. But me siding with the owners is "cuddling up to the owners nutsack".

The players aren't asking for any of that.

All they are fighting for is to keep what they've already got.

**bevischief** · 03-01-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The owners are the ones with no leg to stand on, unless they can produce proof that the last agreement has hurt them financially.

The fact that they have been unwilling to open their books suggest they have something to hide.

If the players decertify, and then file a lawsuit, the owners will be compelled by a judge to open those books.

When they do, if, as the union believes, it shows just the opposite, the owners will lose.

We need a lawyer to speak here.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-01-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

and again

it can't be possible that your really don't realize what a complete ****ing asshole you are

I'm an asshole because YOU don't know why the union and owners are at odds?

You live in a ****ing fantasy land.

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