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Old 04-05-2011, 09:53 PM   #1
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No. Waht if someone falls in a fire camping in a remote place and everyone there had had something to drink.... the car won't let them drive the injured party to rescue? No there is to many unforseen incidents that could jepordize the saftey of individuals. No! Life is short and life is fleeting....hell no!


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Jesus. Could you have come up with something more obscure?
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:25 PM   #2
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Jesus. Could you have come up with something more obscure?

Yes I could. Is that what you want me to do?


There has to be a better way.


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Old 04-05-2011, 10:28 PM   #3
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Yes I could. Is that what you want me to do?


There has to be a better way.


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How about something less obscure. I'm interested to know if you think a significant enough contingent of people would need to drive while intoxicated to save lives that it would come close to offsetting the lives saved by the approach he suggests.


For the record I'm not in favor of the OP's proposal, but not because I think it would endanger lives.
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Old 04-05-2011, 11:03 PM   #4
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How about something less obscure. I'm interested to know if you think a significant enough contingent of people would need to drive while intoxicated to save lives that it would come close to offsetting the lives saved by the approach he suggests.
For the record I'm not in favor of the OP's proposal, but not because I think it would endanger lives.
There is no way to measure.


Maybe this technology shouldn't be across the board./Tod Haley


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Old 04-05-2011, 10:27 PM   #5
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Jesus. Could you have come up with something more obscure?
Dude loves his booze.
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:50 PM   #6
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Bottom line is that people who want to function illegally will function illegally. I do not want the government to sanction or mandate ANYTHING that is supposed to be "good for us all".
Its like guns. The bad guys will find a way. The good guys will pay the money for them to do it.
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:50 PM   #7
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:56 PM   #8
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putting people with DUI's in jail makes no sense, fine them a bunch then release them so they can work and pay more taxes.
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:57 PM   #9
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:11 PM   #11
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Please explain the essential liberty that is being taken away. Are you being denied the right to drive? Are you being denied the right to drink? Somehow, I don't think this is what Ben Franklin had in mind when he uttered those words.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:20 PM   #12
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Please explain the essential liberty that is being taken away. Are you being denied the right to drive? Are you being denied the right to drink? Somehow, I don't think this is what Ben Franklin had in mind when he uttered those words.
Its time we all wake up and understand the government cannot, now nor it ever could, regulate or mandate a safer society. Or a healthy society. Or a moral society. This false thinking needs to stop. NOW.

What I mean, if you read my three posts here is that people who are drunk and have to drive will find a way. A friend. A pump. A CO2 cartridge device. They will find a way.

In the mean time, the rest of us will pay higher taxes to regulate this failure. We will pay huge costs in legal cases against the govt. We will be forced to be treated like the bad guys and blow into the straw to start the car, when the drunks would never do that. They would know better.

We would pay and suffer, and the bad guys would not be affected.

"Government can not solve our problems. Government is our problem"

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Old 04-05-2011, 10:22 PM   #13
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Its time we all wake up and understand the government cannot, now nor it ever could, regulate or mandate a safer society. Or a healthy society. Or a moral society. This false thinking needs to stop. NOW.

What I mean, if you read my three posts here is that people who are drunk and have to drive will find a way. A friend. A pump. A CO2 cartridge device. They will find a way.

In the mean time, the rest of us will pay higher taxes to regulate this failure. We will pay huge costs in legal cases against the govt. We will be forced to be treated like the bad guys and blow into the straw to start the car, when the drunks would never do that. They would know better.

We would pay and suffer, and the bad guys would not be affected.

"Government can not solve our problems. Government is our problem"

Ronald Reagan.
No shit. Why do we waste millions, nay billions a year on police protection?? THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING!!! STOP!!!!!
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:27 PM   #14
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No shit. Why do we waste millions, nay billions a year on police protection?? THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING!!! STOP!!!!!
DC in 5..4..3..2..1..


But besides that..

Police is a different issue. They are there to protect our constitutional rights to life liberty and the persuit of happiness, by others who would assume power over us and take those rights away from us. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Lets not be rediculous.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:28 PM   #15
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Its time we all wake up and understand the government cannot, now nor it ever could, regulate or mandate a safer society. Or a healthy society. Or a moral society. This false thinking needs to stop. NOW.

What I mean, if you read my three posts here is that people who are drunk and have to drive will find a way. A friend. A pump. A CO2 cartridge device. They will find a way.

In the mean time, the rest of us will pay higher taxes to regulate this failure. We will pay huge costs in legal cases against the govt. We will be forced to be treated like the bad guys and blow into the straw to start the car, when the drunks would never do that. They would know better.

We would pay and suffer, and the bad guys would not be affected.

"Government can not solve our problems. Government is our problem"

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Really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt_legislation

Ignition interlock systems are pretty tamper proof nowadays.

http://www.drivinglaws.org/legal-adv...ck-device-work

Many require positive driver identification. That would result in fewer stolen vehicles as well....
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