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Old 06-20-2011, 06:55 PM  
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ESPN: Ranking the AFC West defensive linemen
ESPN's Bill Williamson ranks Tyson Jackson at #9 - almost as high as his draft position! Well, sorta kinda....

1. Richard Seymour, Oakland: He is the class of the division. He is aging, but he is still a brilliant player.

2. Glenn Dorsey, Kansas City: He made great strides in 2010, his third NFL season. He had adjusted well to the 3-4 defense and he is the anchor to a young defense.

3. Tommy Kelly, Oakland: Kelly had his best NFL season in 2010 and he pairs very nicely with Seymour. He is tough when he is motivated.

4. Elvis Dumervil, Denver: Dumervil is back to end in a 4-3 after excelling in a 3-4 defense. He struggles against the run, but he is a force as a pass-rusher.

5. Lamarr Houston, Oakland: I really like this player. The second-year player is a potential star.

6. Antonio Garay, San Diego: Garay had a terrific season in 2010. He is a tremendous nose tackle.

7. Luis Castillo, San Diego: Castillo is a solid player, but I’d like to see more impact plays.

8. Matt Shaughnessy, Oakland: He’s another fine young player for Oakland. He has made the most of his opportunities.

9. Tyson Jackson, Kansas City: Jackson has been just so-so. This is a huge season for the No. 3 overall pick of the 2009 draft.

10. Corey Liuget, San Diego: The No. 18 overall pick of the 2011 draft will start at end and he will get a chance to make an immediate impact.

11. Wallace Gilberry, Kansas City: He’s is an underrated player. He can get sacks in bunches.

12. John Henderson, Oakland: He is aging, but he can still help Oakland as a run stuffer.

13. Robert Ayers, Denver: This is a big season for Ayers, the No. 18 pick in 2009. New coach John Fox likes him, so he’ll get a chance to start.

14. Trevor Scott, Oakland: Scott has a chance to be very good. He has natural pass-rushing ability.

15. Ron Edwards, Kansas City: He’s steady. The Chiefs want more help at tackle, but Edwards is OK.

16. Shaun Smith, Kansas City: The Chiefs need to bring him back. He can make an impact.

17. Marcus Thomas, Denver: Denver wants this free agent back.

18. Allen Bailey, Kansas City: The Chiefs are very excited about this third-round pick. He could play right away.

19. Kevin Vickerson, Denver: Denver re-signed him in March.

20. Vaughn Martin, San Diego: It’s time for this project to make a move.

21. Cam Thomas, San Diego: The Chargers still have high hopes for this second-year player.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...ensive-linemen
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:23 PM   #16
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There are 14 starting D-Linemen in the AFC West.



Now, with that said I would place Tyson Jackson at say, 11tybillionth place.
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:26 PM   #17
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I think it's gonna be hilarious when Jackson has a good season and people flip flop worse than John Kerry. I have no room to talk though....at one point I thought Dorsey was taken way too high.
If he improves to "adequate" it will be a miracle. There still exists no good defense for making that pick at #3 overall.

I'm not going to praise Jackson for not being a piece of shit. That being said, he could possibly turn into the kind of player for the team that can't be valued. If he plays like a starter, we now have Dorsey, Jackson, Gilberry, (potentially) Shaun Smith and Allen Bailey. That's quite a group. We should have no problems stopping the run.

Now if only Powe could be the longterm answer at NT...
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:27 PM   #18
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Also where's Knowmo's boy Ryan McBean? I thought he was going to be the force that would stop Jamaal Charles dead in his tracks for years to come.
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I think Jackson has clear physical limitations that will keep him from the top 5. But he's not nearly as bad as some people want to make him to be.
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Bailey is going to outplay Jackson all season. Fans will want Bailey to start, but that won't happen because of the paychecks
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:40 PM   #21
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Also where's Knowmo's boy Ryan McBean? I thought he was going to be the force that would stop Jamaal Charles dead in his tracks for years to come.
I couldn't even remember what happened to him, so I checked. Apparently, he is still a Bronco. Also, he is "widely considered as one of the NFL's happiest players." They should do a list based on that.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_McBean
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yes he is
Then you're judging him based on his stat sheet instead of the film.

People exaggerate how bad he is because they're expecting him to be #3 pick talent. He's horrible for a #3 pick. But as an NFL player, he's average, just as Williamson says.
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Williamson always makes pretty shitty lists.
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Hey now, the dude was the #3 pick....
And Jamarcus Russell was #1
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Not really. He didn't get sacks, but he wrecked some shit last year.
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KnowMo will be along shortly with a quote form some douche from twitter saying Denver has the top 4 D-linemen in the West. Sad part is, it will be his own quote he's using.
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