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**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-15-2011, 01:15 PM

I'm stone ****ing stupid when it comes to cars, and figure there are enough car guys out there that might be able to help me out.

I drive a 2009 Volkswagen CC with manual 6 speed transmission. 2.0L DOHC Turbocharged engine. Car has 40,000 miles and has been maintained to the letter.

It doesn't happen every time, but I'm noticing a slight engine hesitation around 2900-3200 RPM, but only when I'm in 4th gear. It feels very similar to the slight "turbolag" you get at 3800 RPM with this engine.

No warning, check engine lights etc. are on.

Any thoughts?

-King- · 08-15-2011, 01:38 PM

What % tint is that?

DJ's left nut · 08-15-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I used to sell for the VW dealership I bought from, so I got it below invoice. I love this ****ing car. First issue I've had with it.

I'm actually surprised I haven't been pulled over for the window tint.

KNOCKS ON WOOD

Yeah, but my little Hyundai would still smoke ya and do it on 87 octane without needing synthetic oil

The styling on the car is just much more fluid than the Sonata, IMO. It has a more refined European look to it, as opposed to the more linear, aggressive, Japanese look that the Sonata has.

For looks, until you start shopping Mercedes, there's just not anything that compares with that car in mid-size sedan market, especially when interior styling is considered. It's a little polarizing, but I love the interior of that car.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-15-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

What % tint is that?

20% all the way around, IIRC.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-15-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, but my little Hyundai would still smoke ya and do it on 87 octane without needing synthetic oil

The styling on the car is just much more fluid than the Sonata, IMO. It has a more refined European look to it, as opposed to the more linear, aggressive, Japanese look that the Sonata has.

For looks, until you start shopping Mercedes, there's just not anything that compares with that car in mid-size sedan market, especially when interior styling is considered. It's a little polarizing, but I love the interior of that car.

Same here. I just detailed it yesterday, and fell in love with it all over again.

I know the rear bucket seats turn a lot of folks off, but I love it. Then again, the Mrs. and I don't have little ones to worry about.

I've driven nothing but VW's since 2003, and have been extremely happy with each of them.

Radar Chief · 08-15-2011, 02:13 PM

Yup, change filters first then it doesn’t hurt to change spark plugs. I like changing them anyway to keep track of how the engine is burning fuel. If an issue within the engine starts to develop this is typically where it’ll show up first.

modocsot · 08-15-2011, 02:47 PM

I drive an Audi A6 bi-turbo. Your symptoms may be related to a slight vacuum leak. Have it scanned with a VAG-COM while driving, as you try to replicate the symptoms... It'll likely throw a code.

**SAUTO** · 08-15-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll have to check the service records and see when it was changed last. Everything to this point has been done by the dealership as part of a free maintenance plan.

i would just have it changed if thats the case...

and on my PM i thought it was a diesel for some reason...the filter might not be where i thought it was. lol

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-15-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i would just have it changed if thats the case...

and on my PM i thought it was a diesel for some reason...the filter might not be where i thought it was. lol

It's not. I just went out and looked, and nada.

If it's anything like my older VW's, it's right in front of the rear passenger tire.

Can't find the goddamn owners manual, either.

Rooster · 08-15-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It's not. I just went out and looked, and nada.

If it's anything like my older VW's, it's right in front of the rear passenger tire.

Can't find the goddamn owners manual, either.

Some of the new VWs have a false bottom in the glove box that holds the owners manual.

**SAUTO** · 08-15-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It's not. I just went out and looked, and nada.

If it's anything like my older VW's, it's right in front of the rear passenger tire.

Can't find the goddamn owners manual, either.

yep, i just said that in my 2nd PM.

sorry dude, dont know why i read that as a diesel

ToxSocks · 08-15-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I used to sell for the VW dealership I bought from, so I got it below invoice. I love this ****ing car. First issue I've had with it.

I'm actually surprised I haven't been pulled over for the window tint.

KNOCKS ON WOOD

Damn Big Pimpin', watch out. Sweet ride. How much that set you back?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-15-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster

Some of the new VWs have a false bottom in the glove box that holds the owners manual.

Rep, though it was a false top.

It's always been in the actual glove box until the last time I took it in for service. Guess the tech put it back where it belongs.

**hometeam** · 08-15-2011, 03:36 PM

If the sympton doesnt come from fuel you might be having a problem with your cam follower, and this could be your first tip off that something is wrong. This motor is known for cam follower failure, it is fairly common. Most cars with this motor experience it at LEAST once before 50k miles, it has some kind of special coating that wears off and can cause problems just like you have described. IF you wait until it fully breaks, your talking major bucks, you could lose a cam, and lots of other issues. If its not fuel, replaceyour 15 dollar cam follower~

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-15-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Damn Big Pimpin', watch out. Sweet ride. How much that set you back?

IIRC, the sticker was 28,500 and I got it for just over 25,000.

**CrazyPhuD** · 08-15-2011, 03:36 PM

Or it could just be the car too.

I wanted to see a dyno to see what the power curve looked like. While this is only one dyno and it appears to be one with intake and exhaust. One thing that IS interesting is that there is a significant torque drop right between 2500-3000 RPMs which is right in the range you claim. (Dyno graph is at 1:46 second).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_aYi2qwl7M

Could just be that's how the engine breathes and you only notice it in 4th gear because that's where the mechanical advantage is low and your throttle position might now be opened as far as higher gears.

So while it could be a blocked filter, it might also be 'normal'. The question is, is it new or has it always been there.

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modocsot Starter Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Jax, FL (Southbank) Casino cash: $5519244	I drive an Audi A6 bi-turbo. Your symptoms may be related to a slight vacuum leak. Have it scanned with a VAG-COM while driving, as you try to replicate the symptoms... It'll likely throw a code.
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hometeam Supporter Join Date: Jul 2011 Casino cash: $3921956	If the sympton doesnt come from fuel you might be having a problem with your cam follower, and this could be your first tip off that something is wrong. This motor is known for cam follower failure, it is fairly common. Most cars with this motor experience it at LEAST once before 50k miles, it has some kind of special coating that wears off and can cause problems just like you have described. IF you wait until it fully breaks, your talking major bucks, you could lose a cam, and lots of other issues. If its not fuel, replaceyour 15 dollar cam follower~
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CrazyPhuD Meow Join Date: Jun 2005 Casino cash: $10005050	Or it could just be the car too. I wanted to see a dyno to see what the power curve looked like. While this is only one dyno and it appears to be one with intake and exhaust. One thing that IS interesting is that there is a significant torque drop right between 2500-3000 RPMs which is right in the range you claim. (Dyno graph is at 1:46 second). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_aYi2qwl7M Could just be that's how the engine breathes and you only notice it in 4th gear because that's where the mechanical advantage is low and your throttle position might now be opened as far as higher gears. So while it could be a blocked filter, it might also be 'normal'. The question is, is it new or has it always been there. __________________ "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t*rd by the clean end"
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