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**SAUTO** · 08-20-2011, 09:24 AM

So what does the planet think if his play against the ravens?

I thought he made a great play in sniffing out the screen and making the tackle, even when he had to dodge #70 who looked clueless about what was going on.

Looked like a wiley vet there...
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Mr. Laz · 08-20-2011, 10:56 AM

I think he shows elite level potential, so does Houston.

Sheffield is showing flashes too.

If Powe can be productive in a full rotation with Gregg then it will be huge for us this season.

Coogs · 08-20-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB

Powe got washed out on Rice's TD run, but I echo everyone else in that I'm excited about his future. That's what pre-season is for, make a mistake (or get beat) and learn from it. Hopefully he keeps it up.

He did get moved on that one. 3rd and one play. We had 7 men on the LOS, 2LB's right behind Powe, and Arenas just 5 yards off the ball at the snap over towards the left side of our defense.

Powe and the center for Baltimore locked on to each other, and Powe was actually probably winning the matchup as they were headed towards the play that started going to Baltimore's left, but then was a cutback move to the riight for Rice. At that point, the RG of the Ravens hit Powe and continued taking Powe out of the play. Pretty good blocking by the Ravens.

HOWEVER... the center then got a piece of Siler's legs with his arms, and damn near tackled him, as Siler was attempting to fill the hole Rice was running through, and Arenas and Houston should have made the tackle right after that as well. Our safety took a poor angle as well, but that wasn't Berry or Lewis.

Should have been an obvious hold on the center. That call being missed, it should have been 3 or 4 yard run for a 1st down at worst. And everything that went wrong is fixable probably with the guys that were on the field, and most likely would have been already taken care of by the starters.

RedThat · 08-20-2011, 11:18 AM

Man, I just love it how we have a rotation.

Come to think of it.

Gregg-sub in Powe

TJack-sub in either Bailey or Gilberry

Studebaker-sub in either Houston or Sheffield.

*Good to see we can have fresh legs. This means the defense will be less tired.

trndobrd · 08-20-2011, 11:54 AM

Last year opposing QBs simply took a few steps forward to avoid Hali coming off the end. I didn't see the Ravens QBs avoid the rush by stepping forward when Powe and Gregg were in the game. Powe was stout against doubleteams and his play on the screen pass showed some great instinct for a rookie. His ability to stop, change direction and then run Ricky Williams down from behind* shows a lot of atheticism for a big fella.

* Yeah, I know Willams was kind of standing there, but it just sounds really good to say.

milkman · 08-20-2011, 11:56 AM

I just finished watching my recording of this game, and this thread seems a good place to make my observations, starting with Powe.

The guy is clearly strong, as illustrated by the fact that he's holding his own aganst the OL even though he's playing too high.

When he learns to play low and get under the pads, he is going to be absolute beast.

But the screen play was the defensive play of the game.

He splits a double team, reads the play and shows great speed for a man his size, running about 15 yards to make the stop.

Tyson Jackson was really active, getting push and pressure against the pass, and shedding blocks to make tackles against the run.

Jovan Belcher and DJ both played with outstanding gap discipline and were a big part of keeping Rice in check when they were in.

DeMorrio Williams, I thought, was the guy most responsible for the big TD run, because at the snap he failed to maintain his gap responsibility, allowing a huge hole for Rice to cut back into.

Houston and Sheffield are both faster, quicker and more athletic than Andy Studebaker.

If either, or both, can show something in run and pass coverage, Studebaker should be relegated to bench duty.

The secondary starters are just balls.

Depth......eh......Can we end the Quienton Lawrence project?

He looks like William Bartee revisited.

On offense, Dwayne Bowe looks even more focused than last year.

Jon Asomaoh looks rock solid.

He was pushed back into the pocket a couple of times by Ngata, but overall, he was winning the battles against whoever he was lined up against for most of the night.

Hudson also looked rock solid, and he shouldn't be sitting behinf Casey Weigman for more than a handful of games.

One of the reasons I hated hiring Bill Muir is the fact that he's always subscribed to cut blocking as a great tool in pass protect, but the DEs these days are just to athletic to attempt to cut block.

Every time Albert or Richardson attempted it, they simply got beat, and Albert got hurt when hit in the head by a knee.

When, however, they stayed on their feet and got their hands on their man, they did a nice job.

We need Gaither and Harris to stay healthy, cause after those guys, the only O-Lineman worth holding onto is David Mims, and he's a big project.

**Saul Good** · 08-20-2011, 12:08 PM

Its interesting to me that we are talking about a 6th rounder as a major contributor. It seems like its a foregone conclusion that. He will make the team.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 08-20-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Its interesting to me that we are talking about a 6th rounder as a major contributor. It seems like its a foregone conclusion that. He will make the team.

He was pick number 199 (Tom Brady Pick)

**the Talking Can** · 08-20-2011, 12:14 PM

yeah, jackson looked solid...which is all i'm asking for, just don't get manhandled...

i think our run D will be top 10 this year

Frankie · 08-20-2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Hudson also looked rock solid, and he shouldn't be sitting behinf Casey Weigman for more than a handful of games.

That should work out perfectly. CW is only good for half a season anyway.

philfree · 08-20-2011, 12:53 PM

Any chance Powe can play some 5-tech? With him and Gregg in the game we could be really stout up front. No all the time just as a sub package.

Frankie · 08-20-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Any chance Powe can play some 5-tech? With him and Gregg in the game we could be really stout up front. No all the time just as a sub package.

He's built as a NT.

milkman · 08-20-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Any chance Powe can play some 5-tech? With him and Gregg in the game we could be really stout up front. No all the time just as a sub package.

After Gregg and Powe, the depth at NT is veil thin.

You don't want to wear these guys out playing them anywhere other than the nose.

If Tyson Jackson plays as well as he did last night, with Dorsey, Gilberry, Bailey and Amon Gordon, who just keeps flashing in the two games, we have enough talent for the DE rotation.

Mr. Laz · 08-20-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Any chance Powe can play some 5-tech? With him and Gregg in the game we could be really stout up front. No all the time just as a sub package.

nah ... the only time i want Powe and Gregg on the field together is in some kind of super jumb goal line package. Even then they will both be inside DT's.

we've added strength and beef to our DL this year hopefully.

Gregg,Powe,Bailey all bring more power to our DL

philfree · 08-20-2011, 01:08 PM

Just a thought. Powe is so athletic for a man his size I thought it might a possibility.

Mr. Laz · 08-20-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Just a thought. Powe is so athletic for a man his size I thought it might a possibility.

not a bad idea ... Baltimore uses Ngata at DE

maybe when we have a more stable NT situation

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trndobrd 'Stachecicle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Tolerance Box Casino cash: $4545087	Last year opposing QBs simply took a few steps forward to avoid Hali coming off the end. I didn't see the Ravens QBs avoid the rush by stepping forward when Powe and Gregg were in the game. Powe was stout against doubleteams and his play on the screen pass showed some great instinct for a rookie. His ability to stop, change direction and then run Ricky Williams down from behind* shows a lot of atheticism for a big fella. * Yeah, I know Willams was kind of standing there, but it just sounds really good to say. __________________ "I don't really think there is a need to raise or debate this point." -jAZ Last edited by trndobrd; 08-20-2011 at 11:59 AM..
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	I just finished watching my recording of this game, and this thread seems a good place to make my observations, starting with Powe. The guy is clearly strong, as illustrated by the fact that he's holding his own aganst the OL even though he's playing too high. When he learns to play low and get under the pads, he is going to be absolute beast. But the screen play was the defensive play of the game. He splits a double team, reads the play and shows great speed for a man his size, running about 15 yards to make the stop. Tyson Jackson was really active, getting push and pressure against the pass, and shedding blocks to make tackles against the run. Jovan Belcher and DJ both played with outstanding gap discipline and were a big part of keeping Rice in check when they were in. DeMorrio Williams, I thought, was the guy most responsible for the big TD run, because at the snap he failed to maintain his gap responsibility, allowing a huge hole for Rice to cut back into. Houston and Sheffield are both faster, quicker and more athletic than Andy Studebaker. If either, or both, can show something in run and pass coverage, Studebaker should be relegated to bench duty. The secondary starters are just balls. Depth......eh......Can we end the Quienton Lawrence project? He looks like William Bartee revisited. On offense, Dwayne Bowe looks even more focused than last year. Jon Asomaoh looks rock solid. He was pushed back into the pocket a couple of times by Ngata, but overall, he was winning the battles against whoever he was lined up against for most of the night. Hudson also looked rock solid, and he shouldn't be sitting behinf Casey Weigman for more than a handful of games. One of the reasons I hated hiring Bill Muir is the fact that he's always subscribed to cut blocking as a great tool in pass protect, but the DEs these days are just to athletic to attempt to cut block. Every time Albert or Richardson attempted it, they simply got beat, and Albert got hurt when hit in the head by a knee. When, however, they stayed on their feet and got their hands on their man, they did a nice job. We need Gaither and Harris to stay healthy, cause after those guys, the only O-Lineman worth holding onto is David Mims, and he's a big project. __________________
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