We are in a GREAT position

[durtyrute]

I've been sitting back, going through these threads for the last couple of days reading how: if we keep Romeo that means Cassel, if we would've gotten McD that meant Cassel, Pioli has the biggest ego, Clark Hunt is cheap, 40 years means we will never get a QB and on and on and on.

When Clark officially took over what did he do? He went out and got the best candidate for the job. Whatever the price, he paid it. Then Pioli brought in Haley, who just came from the SuperBowl. (Seemed good at the time and there weren't too many complaints when we went to the playoffs) Then Pioli got us a QB and a Vet LB for a second round pick. (Again, it seemed good at the time, and Cassel did pretty good the season before and when we went to the playoffs) The first draft was a bust, but that is not on the Clarks...lol, that's Pioli and his goons right there. We bring in some cast offs and try to make them stick, most don't, (again, the goons plus Haley at work) Season is a bust and we sucked.

Next season, bring in the best OC and DC you can get, money be damned. The draft was a huge success. We get some decent free agents. No, big names, but we did alright. Haley is almost the coach of the year. Cassel backs that ass up right into the playoffs. We lose, we suck again.

This season, the draft seems alright, shortened offseason, weird preseason (you can debate that if you choose). Injuries, suckage, injuries, suckage, Palko, ultimate suckage, Haley gone, Orton, succesful suckage, season over, RAC city.

Now here we are and all you guys can say is Clark never spends, even though he got the best: GM, OC, DC and OC (Haley) money could buy. For the most part he has signed all of the players we need to keep. Looks like he is spending to me. The whole Smith thing I don't know what that was, so if you feel you must count that then go ahead.

We have a GM that is on his last leg. You guys talk about his ego, for one, most people have egos especially in pro sports, so who cares if he does? For two, do you really think he's going to let the season go to shit because of Cassel? Why would he do that? Oh, he won't bench or cut him because that's admitting a mistake, well Todd Haley says hi.

Now the draft a QB thing. The ****ing draft hasn't even happened yet, shit the SuperBowl hasn't happened and you guys are crying about shit that has happened in the past that has nothing to do with the future. We don't know if we will trade up or not. No one in the organization has been in this situation before, not Pioli or Clark, so can we atleast wait for the draft. As i've shown, Clark is doing what he thinks is right and plus he's a business man he's not going to blow his money because some people in a forum want him too.

I for one think we are in a great position both Pioli and Rac are trying to save there asses and if it comes down to Pioli or Cassel who do you think will be gone first. Now, if we don't sign Bowe and Carr, go into the season with just Cassel and don't draft a qb or at least let Stanzi battle with Cassel then we should burn the place down, but until then.....

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Matt Cassel alone is enough to warrant the Pioli hate.

Yeah, Pioli should have gome into the season with Croyle and Thigpen.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Originally Posted by durtyrute

That's part of what I'm saying too. Looks like two somewhat solid drafts, and one AFC West Championship. Yea he brought us Cassel, but he did pretty good with the Pats so it seemed like a steal. Plus 27/7 ain't to bad.

Prepare for your rep to be raped

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Yeah, Pioli should have gome into the season with Croyle and Thigpen.

Right because the choice was either Cassel or those two.

[durtyrute]

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

Prepare for your rep to be raped

I know.

I'm no big Cassel fan, but at the time it looked like it could work. But, now we see the suckage that is Cassel.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Right because the choice was either Cassel or those two.

Yeah, I'm sure we could have traded a 2nd rounder and had Manning or kept it and made a stellar pick like Bartee, in the days of old.

Given the circumstances it was a reasonable move.

[scho63]

We are in GREAT shape??? Are you smoking crack????

1971-2011
40 years
11 playoff appearances
3-11 = .214 winning percentage
18 fucking years without a playoff win
ONE Conference Championship game (thanks to Joe Montana-who by the way has 66% of our playoff wins in the last 40 years)
ZERO Super Bowl appearances

Yeah, I feel real great.....

[CoMoChief]

This is a GM who foolishly went into his first draft blindfolded. Wasn't the previous regime's scouting dept still getting info for the upcoming draft, which wasn't that far away, and Pioli just kicked them all to the curb and basically said **** it, I'll do this with some little info I got from when I was in NE?

At the time, we desperately needed to do something about a QB. Thigpen or Croyle weren't ever going to cut it and everyone knew that. So obviously it was the right move at the time. Problem is, Cassel still sucks, and now we can't still spend another season wondering if Cassel is going to cut it while he learns under and new OC (whoever that may be).

[kaplin42]

Originally Posted by durtyrute

I've been sitting back, going through these threads for the last couple of days reading how: if we keep Romeo that means Cassel, if we would've gotten McD that meant Cassel, Pioli has the biggest ego, Clark Hunt is cheap, 40 years means we will never get a QB and on and on and on.

When Clark officially took over what did he do? He went out and got the best candidate for the job. Whatever the price, he paid it. Then Pioli brought in Haley, who just came from the SuperBowl. (Seemed good at the time and there weren't too many complaints when we went to the playoffs) Then Pioli got us a QB and a Vet LB for a second round pick. (Again, it seemed good at the time, and Cassel did pretty good the season before and when we went to the playoffs) The first draft was a bust, but that is not on the Clarks...lol, that's Pioli and his goons right there. We bring in some cast offs and try to make them stick, most don't, (again, the goons plus Haley at work) Season is a bust and we sucked.

Next season, bring in the best OC and DC you can get, money be damned. The draft was a huge success. We get some decent free agents. No, big names, but we did alright. Haley is almost the coach of the year. Cassel backs that ass up right into the playoffs. We lose, we suck again.

This season, the draft seems alright, shortened offseason, weird preseason (you can debate that if you choose). Injuries, suckage, injuries, suckage, Palko, ultimate suckage, Haley gone, Orton, succesful suckage, season over, RAC city.

Now here we are and all you guys can say is Clark never spends, even though he got the best: GM, OC, DC and OC (Haley) money could buy. For the most part he has signed all of the players we need to keep. Looks like he is spending to me. The whole Smith thing I don't know what that was, so if you feel you must count that then go ahead.

We have a GM that is on his last leg. You guys talk about his ego, for one, most people have egos especially in pro sports, so who cares if he does? For two, do you really think he's going to let the season go to shit because of Cassel? Why would he do that? Oh, he won't bench or cut him because that's admitting a mistake, well Todd Haley says hi.

Now the draft a QB thing. The ****ing draft hasn't even happened yet, shit the SuperBowl hasn't happened and you guys are crying about shit that has happened in the past that has nothing to do with the future. We don't know if we will trade up or not. No one in the organization has been in this situation before, not Pioli or Clark, so can we atleast wait for the draft. As i've shown, Clark is doing what he thinks is right and plus he's a business man he's not going to blow his money because some people in a forum want him too.

I for one think we are in a great position both Pioli and Rac are trying to save there asses and if it comes down to Pioli or Cassel who do you think will be gone first. Now, if we don't sign Bowe and Carr, go into the season with just Cassel and don't draft a qb or at least let Stanzi battle with Cassel then we should burn the place down, but until then.....

TLDR = Clark Hunt's boy butter is a perferct spread on my morning toast.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by durtyrute

I know.

I'm no big Cassel fan, but at the time it looked like it could work. But, now we see the suckage that is Cassel.

Yeah.... you repeated that several times in the OP....

I guess just doing "what looks like it could work" is perfectly acceptable in your eyes, results be damned?

Great way to run a franchise....

[Mile High Mania]

I think KC is in a great position because they will get Charles, Moeaki and Berry back from injury in 2012 ... that's what really tanked your season. Maybe they can tinker with and screw up the mix now.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by durtyrute

I can definitely see that, but it's not old man Hunt, nor is it Carl. We might not go out and spend like crazy, but we're making real improvements.

They have been making the EXACT same mistakes for the 40 + years I have been watching them.

The only common denominator is who or what? I don't want to believe it either but it is HUNT.

Heck, the Stadium has even changed in that time frame.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Buncha of negative nellys around here. You know what everybody on this board needs? a lithium, or maybe a diet coke

[Deberg_1990]

Its all pure speculation. Nobody knows if Pioli's job is in danger or not.


My guess is its not, not matter what how good or bad Crennel does. As long as the stands are full and the Chiefs win more than 4 games a year, his job is safe.

[the Talking Can]

pioli posts on the planet?

[Royal Fanatic]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

You bring up some points, but we have 40 years of evidence of how the team approaches things. After 40 plus years of half-assed approaches, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt.

The first 37 years of evidence aren't exactly relevant. You can't hold Pioli accountable for the mistakes that were made before he got here.