Chiefs Gretz weighs in on the GM situation - Page 2

FloridaMan88 · 12-30-2012, 09:19 PM

Another solid write-up from Bob Gretz (hell must have frozen over for me to type that):

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-footb...lark-hunt.html

Column: Defining Moment Ahead For Clark Hunt

I would not begin to even think that I could read the mind of Clark Hunt and what his plans are for the Hunt Family football team.

Chiefs Nation has their fingers, toes, even eyes crossed that New Year’s Eve 2012 will be the moment when the madness and losing of the Pioli Era will end and a new future will be laid out for the football team.

Two months ago, my personal opinion was that Hunt didn’t have the guts to admit his mistake and fire Pioli. Now, after everything that happened with his franchise over the last four months, I’m not sure Hunt has the guts not to make a big change. How could he possibly ignore what’s gone down with the Chiefs and why they are the NFL’s worst team in 2012?

Well, let me assure you he can, and he might. I don’t think it’s a lead-pipe cinch that the hurricane of change roils through the franchise. The fans and media think that Hunt has to be embarrassed and angry with the performance of his team on the field under Pioli’s direction. They are now 23-42 after losing Sunday in Denver, some 19 games under .500 and far removed from being a championship contender.

I do believe Hunt wants a winning team. What I don’t know, and we all don’t know, is just how important winning is on his radar screen. There may be other areas and avenues of the organization that rank higher on his list of goals. That remains a mystery.

Or, at least it will be in the shadows until he explains what his immediate plans are for the organization. If he keeps Pioli, it will provide everyone with an emphatic answer that winning is not the most important item on his agenda.

A 2-14 season cries out for some sort of reply from ownership. Firing/retiring Romeo Crennel is not going to be a big enough change. There’s no question the Chiefs coaching staff was not a strong one and that doesn’t just fall at the feet of Crennel, not in an organization where Pioli has his finger in every pie and the willingness to overrule any notion that is not his.

For four years now, we have seen that this fish rots from the head down. Now, Clark Hunt will show us if he was the problem ahead of Pioli.

The immediate future of the team depends on what he decides. This is not just a move about changing the names in the office directory. This franchise must reconnect with its fans. There needs to be profound change in the way business is conducted by the Kansas City Chiefs Football Club, Inc.

A red and gold nation awaits a moment where Clark Hunt makes a decision that shows he understands and he has listened.

But, don’t be surprised if he says he does understand and has listened but is going to keep his general manager while sacrificing his head coach.

Anything is possible.

GloryDayz · 12-30-2012, 11:05 PM

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I don't know what living in kc has to do with anything. He is there quite a bit
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Perhaps not, but it'd be a nice thing to try for a while.

**SAUTO** · 12-30-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Perhaps not, but it'd be a nice thing to try for a while.

why?

|Zach| · 12-30-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I don't know what living in kc has to do with anything. He is there quite a bit
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It has everything to do with everything. Absentee owner can only be so much of a part of the community.

|Zach| · 12-30-2012, 11:08 PM

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He kind of alludes to a good point. Up to this point, all of the ire has been pointed at Pioli. If Clark lets Pioli stick around, it's a clear indicator that winning isn't the most important goal he has. At that point, the fans' ire turns to Clark. That's potentially a huge turning point for this franchise.

I made this point in a thread a few weeks ago and got shit on. Heh.

**SAUTO** · 12-30-2012, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

It has everything to do with everything. Absentee owner can only be so much of a part of the community.

What does "the community" and being part of it have to do with any thing? Put a winner on the field. That will fix a lot.
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**notorious** · 12-30-2012, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

What does "the community" and being part of it have to do with any thing? Put a winner on the field. That fixes everything.
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FYP

|Zach| · 12-30-2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

What does "the community" and being part of it have to do with any thing? Put a winner on the field. That will fix a lot.
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Chiefs fans are so far away from knowing what it is like having good ownership...it is like battered wives syndrome up in here.

**dirk digler** · 12-30-2012, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

What does "the community" and being part of it have to do with any thing? Put a winner on the field. That will fix a lot.
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My feeling is like the Glass family since they don't live here they don't get the pulse of the fans and the city along with being pretty much out of touch with what is going on inside their organization.

**gblowfish** · 12-30-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Chiefs fans are so far away from knowing what it is like having good ownership...it is like battered wives syndrome up in here.

I feel like Tina and Clark Hunt is Ike Turner!

**SAUTO** · 12-30-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Chiefs fans are so far away from knowing what it is like having good ownership...it is like battered wives syndrome up in here.

What see you talking about?

I could give a shit where he lives or if he EVER steps foot in kc if we are winning. I would bet everything 99 percent of fans fell the same way
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**SAUTO** · 12-30-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

My feeling is like the Glass family since they don't live here they don't get the pulse of the fans and the city along with being pretty much out of touch with what is going on inside their organization.

He is there quite a bit. I think he knows.
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|Zach| · 12-30-2012, 11:15 PM

Just win it fixes everything.

But you don't just go from being bad to good.

You have to run and build an organization that has a culture of winning. I don't think Hunt knows how to do that with the Chiefs. He is out of touch with the community and the fanbase. Doing business in this bubble.

|Zach| · 12-30-2012, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

What see you talking about?

I could give a shit where he lives out if hr EVER steps foot I'm kc if we are winning. I would bet everything 99 percent of fans fell the same way
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You don't have any idea what you would feel like if we were winning or what those other fans feel like if we were winning.

Because winning to Chiefs fans is only a hypothetical. I think his absentee ownership is one reason for that. Not the biggest though.

**dirk digler** · 12-30-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

He is there quite a bit. I think he knows.
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I guess we will find out tomorrow. If he retains Pioli then he doesn't have a clue

**SAUTO** · 12-30-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Just win it fixes everything.

But you don't just go from being bad to good.

You have to run and build an organization that has a culture of winning. I don't think Hunt knows how to do that with the Chiefs. He is out of touch with the community and the fanbase. Doing business in this bubble.

community and fan base have absolutely nothing to do with a culture of winning.
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12-30-2012, 09:19 PM
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-547094	Another solid write-up from Bob Gretz (hell must have frozen over for me to type that): http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-footb...lark-hunt.html Column: Defining Moment Ahead For Clark Hunt I would not begin to even think that I could read the mind of Clark Hunt and what his plans are for the Hunt Family football team. Chiefs Nation has their fingers, toes, even eyes crossed that New Year’s Eve 2012 will be the moment when the madness and losing of the Pioli Era will end and a new future will be laid out for the football team. Two months ago, my personal opinion was that Hunt didn’t have the guts to admit his mistake and fire Pioli. Now, after everything that happened with his franchise over the last four months, I’m not sure Hunt has the guts not to make a big change. How could he possibly ignore what’s gone down with the Chiefs and why they are the NFL’s worst team in 2012? Well, let me assure you he can, and he might. I don’t think it’s a lead-pipe cinch that the hurricane of change roils through the franchise. The fans and media think that Hunt has to be embarrassed and angry with the performance of his team on the field under Pioli’s direction. They are now 23-42 after losing Sunday in Denver, some 19 games under .500 and far removed from being a championship contender. I do believe Hunt wants a winning team. What I don’t know, and we all don’t know, is just how important winning is on his radar screen. There may be other areas and avenues of the organization that rank higher on his list of goals. That remains a mystery. Or, at least it will be in the shadows until he explains what his immediate plans are for the organization. If he keeps Pioli, it will provide everyone with an emphatic answer that winning is not the most important item on his agenda. A 2-14 season cries out for some sort of reply from ownership. Firing/retiring Romeo Crennel is not going to be a big enough change. There’s no question the Chiefs coaching staff was not a strong one and that doesn’t just fall at the feet of Crennel, not in an organization where Pioli has his finger in every pie and the willingness to overrule any notion that is not his. For four years now, we have seen that this fish rots from the head down. Now, Clark Hunt will show us if he was the problem ahead of Pioli. The immediate future of the team depends on what he decides. This is not just a move about changing the names in the office directory. This franchise must reconnect with its fans. There needs to be profound change in the way business is conducted by the Kansas City Chiefs Football Club, Inc. A red and gold nation awaits a moment where Clark Hunt makes a decision that shows he understands and he has listened. But, don’t be surprised if he says he does understand and has listened but is going to keep his general manager while sacrificing his head coach. Anything is possible.
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