Football Tuck Rule is changing - Page 2

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-14-2013, 01:17 PM

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

Whoa: Tuck Rule is changing. If the passer loses control going forward it's still INC. If he loses ball while tucking, it's a fumble.

Mike in SW-MO · 03-14-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

BTW... there were a bunch of tuck rules last year. More than I'd ever seen before. Wonder why that is.

Because qbs figured out if you do a pump fake & never tuck yhe ball, you can't get called for a fumble.

R8RFAN · 03-14-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

refs were paid off that game....even if it was against OAK...I'm totally convinced of that.

Yup.... Worst call ever but Oakland still could have won the game...

**notorious** · 03-14-2013, 01:57 PM

Prepare for the New England fan invasion.

It's obvious that the tuck rule was made up because of the debacle that took place in the snow so many years ago.

shocked · 03-14-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Prepare for the New England fan invasion.

It's obvious that the tuck rule was made up because of the debacle that took place in the snow so many years ago.

You actually think it was made up? On the spot? As if nothing existed prior to '01 divisional game?

Oh, dear.

shocked · 03-14-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike in SW-MO

Because qbs figured out if you do a pump fake & never tuck yhe ball, you can't get called for a fumble.

If you do a pump fake your arm has to reach its full range of motion eventually

The moment it stops? Fumble.

**notorious** · 03-14-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shocked

You actually think it was made up? On the spot? As if nothing existed prior to '01 divisional game?

Oh, dear.

They used the rule to bail NE out.

You could watch 100 plays exactly like it before and after that particular play and it's a fumble every time.

That's what I meant.

jettio · 03-14-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shocked

You actually think it was made up? On the spot? As if nothing existed prior to '01 divisional game?

Oh, dear.

When I was watching the game I expected Walt Coleman to say no fumble because I saw the rule invoked in a game earlier that season.

IIRC it was a Rams game and Kurt Warner was the QB involved. The announcer for that game knew the rule and explained how what looked like a fumble was called an incomplete pass.

Anyway, no fan of the rule, but it had been used before that famous play in the snow.

Amnorix · 03-14-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

refs were paid off that game....even if it was against OAK...I'm totally convinced of that.

Even though the rule was called correctly? Makes perfect sense.

Amnorix · 03-14-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Prepare for the New England fan invasion.

It's obvious that the tuck rule was made up because of the debacle that took place in the snow so many years ago.

Err...what? The rule existed prior to the Pats/Raiders game. I assume you know that...?

Amnorix · 03-14-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

They used the rule to bail NE out.

You could watch 100 plays exactly like it before and after that particular play and it's a fumble every time.

That's what I meant.

I got you now.

errr....so they correctly called the rule, but only did it to bail the Pats out?

You'd think, if they were bought off, that they could've moved Vinatieri's kick in a little closer. I mean, seriously, that's a pretty mediocre job of fixing the game, to force the Pats to make an absurdly difficult kick to tie it.

Jiu Jitsu Jon · 03-14-2013, 10:39 PM

About 12 years too late. I demand that the Raiders be retroactively rewarded the Lombardi that year, and also that I get a $25 gift card to Old Chicago.

Chiefshrink · 03-14-2013, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute

That was the biggest, most made up ****ing rule in the history of the game. I hate the Faid almost as much as I hate the donks -and I really hate the donks -but the inmates should've won that game.

This x10000 !

Mother****erJones · 03-14-2013, 10:43 PM

Man loved watching the Faiders getting ****ed, then I thought Denver was gona get lucky with it

Ugly Duck · 03-14-2013, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shocked

If you do a pump fake your arm has to reach its full range of motion eventually

The moment it stops? Fumble.

Unless you never tuck the ball after the full range of pump-fake motion. Then Mike in SW-MO is right... QB could scramble around all day & never have to worry about a fumble call....

Ace Gunner · 03-15-2013, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully

Great!
Because there's definitely a clear delineation between when the ball is being tucked and when the arm is still going forward!

Judgment calls, FTW!!!

well shit, if you can't tell the diff between the two, you should bag groceries for a living.

the change takes a dumb rule from the game. that's good. too many rules. to much face time for refs these days.

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