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Old 08-10-2013, 01:27 PM  
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Andy Reid tried to trade for Alex Smith 'multiple times' in the past

Just a heads up: You may want to pick up a copy of the New York Times tomorrow and open up to the sports page. Your KC Chiefs will be featured.

Nate Taylor of the New York Times writes this piece, which includes some very interesting tidbits. You need to read the entire thing but here's what jumped out at me:

Reid: Starters will play more next week

1. Reid confirmed that he called the 49ers "multiple times" to try and trade for Alex Smith. We had heard this before, first from Trent Dilfer who labeled it a "courtship" at one point earlier, but this is the first time (as far as I know) that Reid has acknowledged it.

Just today I was talking with another media member about the game and I made note that I don't think enough people realize that Reid has wanted Smith for a while now, like he's been envisioning what he could do.

This little nugget of information makes me feel good about Reid's vision.

Also interesting: Is this why the price on Alex Smith was so high? A second round pick in 2013 and another high conditional pick in 2014. Because the 49ers knew that Reid had wanted him in the past? That sure would explain it.

2. Great quote from Alex Smith: "We'd love to stick it to everybody who thought we couldn't do it, he and I included." Alex Smith isn't the type of say anything controversial but he also doesn't give your stock answers. He puts some thought into it, which is why I like listening to him talk.

3. Reid goes over every play of every practice with the offense. He did not do that last year in Philly. That's part of this theme that Reid is back to coaching this year, and not worrying about the front office stuff.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/11/sp...seid=auto&_r=0
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Old 08-10-2013, 02:13 PM   #16
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Seems like a very good fit for his offense, so why are you surprised?
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Old 08-10-2013, 02:15 PM   #17
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People are quick to shit on Michael Vick around here, but there's nothing wrong with Reid's other project, Alex Smith.

Hmmm...
Vick averaged 6.7 yards an attempt
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Old 08-10-2013, 02:15 PM   #18
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If Alex Smith is indeed the answer, no issues with it. However, this whole thing is far to reminiscent of the pioli era, and thus wigs me out to some degree.
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Old 08-10-2013, 02:17 PM   #19
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Old 08-10-2013, 02:18 PM   #20
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If Alex Smith is indeed the answer, no issues with it. However, this whole thing is far to reminiscent of the pioli era, and thus wigs me out to some degree.
Depends on the definition of an answer. Super bowl this year? Super bowl in 3 years?

Well, I don't believe that the Chiefs are a super bowl contender this year, but I believe that within 3 years they could be. Especially if the defense comes around like I think it can. There is a lot of talent on the defense. There is a lot of talent on the offensive line, and at Tight end.....

Need to upgrade the wide receivers a little bit, and the secondary. but this is a very good team personnel wise already.
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Old 08-10-2013, 02:18 PM   #21
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I just want this team to start drafting QBs. Even if they're not 1st round. I've compromised my wishes so goddamn much with this team it makes me sick, but I've got nowhere else to go.

Reid and Dorsey both got a huge dose of the Ron Wolf QB school that I really really hope this is what we do. Draft a guy every year. Even just a 7th rounder who won't stick. Doesn't matter. Keep digging under rocks to find QB talent. NEVER be content with what you have, even if it's a good situation.

A 13-year period that involves drafting only 3 QBs must never happen again to this franchise.
Totally agree.
I dont care if you have a legit franchise guy, if a QB who you believe has the goods is there, you draft him.
Of course youll stir shit if you have your guy and you use a 1st.
But 2nd and on?
Do it.




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Old 08-10-2013, 02:20 PM   #22
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If Alex Smith is indeed the answer, no issues with it. However, this whole thing is far to reminiscent of the pioli era, and thus wigs me out to some degree.

It's no different than the way Carl Peterson has done for 20 years here either trading away picks for other teams throw away quarterback.

Same ol song and dance.
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Old 08-10-2013, 02:20 PM   #23
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Damn looks we got 4 years of Alex Smith.
Reid's a smart guy. When it was time to move on from McNabb (a player he probably loved more than any other), he did it.

If Smith performs, he'll be here after next year. If he doesn't, he'll move on from him.

I think Reid is a loyal guy, but I also think Reid is a results guy. He's not Pioli who is going to keep trying something that's not working.
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It's no different than the way Carl Peterson has done for 20 years here either trading away picks for other teams throw away quarterback.

Same ol song and dance.
Trent 2.0 with a defense this time?
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Old 08-10-2013, 02:23 PM   #25
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People are quick to shit on Michael Vick around here, but there's nothing wrong with Reid's other project, Alex Smith.

Hmmm...
Because we have about 3 years of examples for Vick playing with Andy Reid and we have a 1 drive sample size with Smith?

Right now, there is nothing wrong with it. It's Week 1 of preseason football.
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Old 08-10-2013, 02:26 PM   #26
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People are quick to shit on Michael Vick around here, but there's nothing wrong with Reid's other project, Alex Smith.

Hmmm...
They melted down last year because of the dream team expectations.

Vick looked like an MVP candidate before they did.

I think it was a great move.

Pushed his lover boy McNabb right out the door when it looked like Vick was the better option.
Reid was constantly bringing in quarterbacks, and dumped his hand picked boy as soon as he saw somebody that might be able to do the job better.

That should be encouraging for you.
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Old 08-10-2013, 02:27 PM   #27
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Reid's a smart guy. When it was time to move on from McNabb (a player he probably loved more than any other), he did it.

If Smith performs, he'll be here after next year. If he doesn't, he'll move on from him.

I think Reid is a loyal guy, but I also think Reid is a results guy. He's not Pioli who is going to keep trying something that's not working.
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They melted down last year because if the dream team expectations.

Vick looked like an MVP candidate before they did.

I think it was a great move.

Pushed his lover boy McNabb right out the door when it looked like Vick was the better option.
Reid was constantly bringing in quarterbacks, and dump his hand picked boy as soon as he saw somebody that might be able to do the job better.

That should be encouraging for you.
Actually, Reid dumped McNabb for Kolb. It looked for awhile that he made an incredibly dumb ****ing decision, then lucked out when Vick went electric in his first few starts since getting out of prison.
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Trent 2.0 with a defense this time?

Save the concussions. I didn't want Trent Green, he grew on me after his second year but then he only lasted 5 years from his age and concussions. I don't think Alex Smith will have the offense buzzing like Trent did but he wont be as bad as I figured he will be. Not worth it if he doesn't give us more than 5 years of playoff births and victories that include maybe a Super Bowl would be nice touch.

I figure a rookie qb taken from the draft can open up a 10+ year opportunity for Super Bowls. We are limited with retreads average 3 years of opportunity.
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Save the concussions. I didn't want Trent Green, he grew on me after his second year but then he only lasted 5 years from his age and concussions. I don't think Alex Smith will have the offense buzzing like Trent did but he wont be as bad as I figured he will be. Not worth it if he doesn't give us more than 5 years of playoff births and victories that include maybe a Super Bowl would be nice touch.

I figure a rookie qb taken from the draft can open up a 10+ year opportunity for Super Bowls. We are limited with retreads average 3 years of opportunity.
This defense is going to rape though. I still don't know how a lesser talented bunch out in Pile High was Top 5. No ****ing way.
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