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Old 11-07-2013, 01:51 PM  
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Police stun stepdad trying to save son from fire
ST. LOUIS (AP) — The family of a 3-year-old killed in a northern Missouri house fire says it is outraged after police used a stun gun on the boy's stepfather as he tried to run back in and save the child.

Riley Miller died early Oct. 31 in the Mississippi River town of Louisiana. A city police officer fired his stun gun at Ryan Miller as he tried to re-enter his burning home, which was destroyed.

Grandmother Lori Miller says she witnessed two officers use the stun gun three times, twice after Ryan Miller had been handcuffed.

Miller suffered chest burns and was later released from the city jail without being charged.

The family says it is considering legal action against the city.

City Administrator Bob Jenne called the police response a "judgment call."

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Old 11-07-2013, 02:51 PM   #16
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**** that, if my child is in a burning house I'm doing everything I can to get them out, if I die trying so be it but Id rather die trying than live knowing I didn't try. Anyone else can get bent.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:52 PM   #17
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**** that, if my child is in a burning house I'm doing everything I can to get them out, if I die trying so be it but Id rather die trying than live knowing I didn't try. Anyone else can get bent.
This, anyone attempting to stop me from saving one of my children would see a rath like no other. It speaks volumes for this man that he tried and his step-son no less. This is a real dad here. Awesome story and I hope this man receives the largest settlement ever.

If this ever happened to me those cops would be worried every time they closed their eyes to sleep. And I would love to be on this man's jury if he decided to pursue justice on his own.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:52 PM   #18
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**** that, if my child is in a burning house I'm doing everything I can to get them out, if I die trying so be it but Id rather die trying than live knowing I didn't try. Anyone else can get bent.
Absolutely agree with that mindset.

I also agree with the mindset of the officer, who's job it is to stop more people from dying.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:53 PM   #19
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He's not saying that. He's stating that people could flip it around to sue the cops if they didn't stop him.
People "could" sue you for just about anything you do or don't do. In this case they will probably sue for what they DID do.

Want to CYA? Make a failing attempt to physically restrain the Dad without a Taser. "I tried but he was just too strong."
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This, anyone attempting to stop me from saving one of my children would see a rath like no other. It speaks volumes for this man that he tried and his step-son no less. This is a real dad here. Awesome story and I hope this man receives the largest settlement ever.

If this ever happened to me those cops would be worried every time they closed their eyes to sleep. And I would love to be on this man's jury if he decided to pursue justice on his own.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:54 PM   #22
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This, anyone attempting to stop me from saving one of my children would see a rath like no other. It speaks volumes for this man that he tried and his step-son no less. This is a real dad here. Awesome story and I hope this man receives the largest settlement ever.

If this ever happened to me those cops would be worried every time they closed their eyes to sleep. And I would love to be on this man's jury if he decided to pursue justice on his own.
The cops didnt start the fire or kill the little boy...

Its tough. I know what you're saying, but its like, you can't be mad at the police for doing their job, too.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:54 PM   #23
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Without being there to see the situation its impossible to know if the Police did the right thing or not.

I mean did the wife need to lose her son and her husband, become a widow for no reason in a potentially helpless situation?
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You don't stop parents from trying to keep their child from burning to death. Good god.
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Supposedly just taking one or two breaths of that superheated air will render you unconscious, but when you're talking about a man and his child... jeez, let him assume the risk
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He's not saying that. He's stating that people could flip it around to sue the cops if they didn't stop him.
I don't think that would have any legal ground.
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If this ever happened to me those cops would be worried every time they closed their eyes to sleep. And I would love to be on this man's jury if he decided to pursue justice on his own.
Ah yes, the obligatory "I would go Rambo on people" and "I would love to be on the jury" post
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Without being there to see the situation its impossible to know if the Police did the right thing or not.

I mean did the wife need to lose her son and her husband, become a widow for no reason in a potentially helpless situation?
It's not their place to make that decision.
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I believe a man is born with the liberty to choose the day to die. or to potentially die.
That opens a can of worms regarding legalized euthanasia.

Good point, though. I can see the side of the dad being allowed to make the decision for himself.

However, it may put the fireman's life at risk for having to go save the dad, and then you've caused even more death, intentional or not.
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Look.....I'd be the first one to run back into a burning building to rescue any of my three daughters. But we have no clue about the situation. It says the house was destroyed. We have no idea how long the boy had been in the fire.
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