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**New World Order** · 07-23-2014, 03:27 AM

This year might be a disaster. Why? Well let me break it down:

-The strength of schedule is obviously much tougher this year. We won't be playing very many Jeff Tuels or Blaine Gaberts. We were 1-4 against winning teams last year. Keep in mind the one win was against Michael Vick and not Nick Foles.

- Jamaal looks like he will hold out. Remember what happened when Darrelle Revis held out? He was once the best corner in the NFL, but has never been the same since he held out for more money.

-Alex Smith is still trying to negotiate a contract. You never want your quarterback going into the year with a contract situation on his mind.

-Perhaps we made some FA moves to upgrade our team at certain positions? Nope, not a chance.

-Do I really need to bring up the offensive line? The entire offensive line could be an absolute disaster.

-And of course there is Bob Sutton

I'm worried boys. Very, Very worried.

Halfcan · 07-23-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

This year might be a disaster. Why? Well let me break it down:

-The strength of schedule is obviously much tougher this year. We won't be playing very many Jeff Tuels or Blaine Gaberts. We were 1-4 against winning teams last year. Keep in mind the one win was against Michael Vick and not Nick Foles.

- Jamaal looks like he will hold out. Remember what happened when Darrelle Revis held out? He was once the best corner in the NFL, but has never been the same since he held out for more money.

-Alex Smith is still trying to negotiate a contract. You never want your quarterback going into the year with a contract situation on his mind.

-Perhaps we made some FA moves to upgrade our team at certain positions? Nope, not a chance.

-Do I really need to bring up the offensive line? The entire offensive line could be an absolute disaster.

-And of course there is Bob Sutton

I'm worried boys. Very, Very worried.

Chiefs will play 16 games-unless they make the playoffs. They will win some and lose some.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-23-2014, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

With Alex Smith we should be 6-10

There ya' go.

Prison Bitch · 07-23-2014, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

. We were 1-4 against winning teams last year. Keep in mind the one win was against Michael Vick and not Nick Foles..

1-6.

Saccopoo · 07-23-2014, 11:55 AM

Q...

But, in an effort to quell the pessimism...

I'm taking a post in the Jamaal Charles thread and putting it in here as it is more reflective of this thread than the Chicken Little terror over in that one...

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks View Post
As much as I love Charles, the Chiefs aren't going to contend for a Super Bowl during the 3 or 4yr window left in Jamaal's football career. The Chiefs need a back with a window that coincides with when the Chiefs might realistically contend for a Super Bowl, someone who might peak in the next 40 or 50 years.
Theoretically, they should be in the Super Bowl hunt in the 2015 season.

They should have an outside shot this season if they don't suffer injuries at key positions.

Considering that they reeled off a 9-0 start last season and were in the playoffs and should have won that game if not for some seriously inexcusably bad plays by Dwayne Bowe, Kendrick Lewis and Dunta Robinson as well as injuries to Jamaal Charles and Brandon Flowers (in addition to a hobbled Houston), while operating in a new system with an entirely new coaching staff on both sides of the ball and with a totally new QB roster, this is a team that should seriously contend for at least one or two playoff wins in 2014 and, if they keep the offensive line and QB together, add one more weapon at WR (or someone emerges), they should be Super Bowl ready by the 2015 season.

Offensively, we will be better simply by building on the continuity and experience of last season, which saw the offense operating at a NFL Top 5/10 level the last half of the season. Getting Fisher and Stephenson at their correct positions (LT and RT respectively) will help. Charles, while 27, has really only played four seasons in the NFL and left after his junior year in college. There is ample tread left on those tires and the Chiefs coaching staff was getting Knile Davis more involved in the run and spreading Charles out more as the season went along. This will help preserve Charles as well.

And having a healthy Fasano and Kelce will be significant. Reid's offense has always utilized the tight end a lot, but last season, due to injuries, was forced to lean on a guy who was a rookie with only one year of very, very small college ball under his belt (McGrath). And while he performed admirably all things considered, it hampered the effectiveness of Smith in the system. (Smith was a different QB when Fasano was in the game, especially in the beginning of the season.)

In addition, while Smith received the "game manager" tag around here, he was basically forced to do so due to the limitations he had at WR, TE and the inexperience of the offensive line (which was basically all "rookies" as starters with the exception of Albert). Especially against the good teams. As the season wore on, Smith began to open it up and by the time the playoff game came around the guy was slinging it, even without Charles in the lineup. You'll see substantially more of that this season and substantially less of the game manager. Guaranteed.

Defensively, we are going to be better by subtraction, where guys like Lewis and Robinson and Jackson are gone. The presence of Vance Walker will be a boon to Houston and Hali and Mays will be a tone setter on a defense that, at times, lacked a true killer instinct. (Dude can't cover much in the pass, but he'll tear a guys head off if he gets the chance.)

In addition, we've upgraded our Special Teams from a personnel perspective. Guys like Albert Wilson, Dan Sorensen, Sanders Commings, De'anthony Thomas were all special teams aces and should immediately upgrade that area, especially under the tutelage of Dave Toub.

There is nobody in the AFC that scares me. The Donkeys retooled their defense and TJ Ward is their most important free agent acquisition and will have an impact, but they lost some key players on offense (notably Eric Decker and Zane Beadles) and the loss of those two will be noticeable. As well, Manning is another year older as is his arm.

In all honesty, the Chiefs have as good a chance as anybody in the AFC and should be better this season simply based on the continuity of the team in the system. The talent is there, especially on the defensive side of the ball where we are better by subtraction (Lewis, Robinson, Jackson).

The NFC West is the class of the NFL right now, but they aren't the end all be all. Seattle lost contributing defensive players and their offense with Wilson is questionable at best, as is the Rams with Bradford and the 49ers with Kaepernick.

The 2014 Chiefs should be just fine and by the end of the season, they'll be in contention for the AFC West lead.

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07-23-2014, 03:27 AM
New World Order Choco Favre Join Date: Jul 2012 Casino cash: $2174765	A Message From Captain Obvious This year might be a disaster. Why? Well let me break it down: -The strength of schedule is obviously much tougher this year. We won't be playing very many Jeff Tuels or Blaine Gaberts. We were 1-4 against winning teams last year. Keep in mind the one win was against Michael Vick and not Nick Foles. - Jamaal looks like he will hold out. Remember what happened when Darrelle Revis held out? He was once the best corner in the NFL, but has never been the same since he held out for more money. -Alex Smith is still trying to negotiate a contract. You never want your quarterback going into the year with a contract situation on his mind. -Perhaps we made some FA moves to upgrade our team at certain positions? Nope, not a chance. -Do I really need to bring up the offensive line? The entire offensive line could be an absolute disaster. -And of course there is Bob Sutton I'm worried boys. Very, Very worried.
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Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	Q... But, in an effort to quell the pessimism... I'm taking a post in the Jamaal Charles thread and putting it in here as it is more reflective of this thread than the Chicken Little terror over in that one... Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks View Post As much as I love Charles, the Chiefs aren't going to contend for a Super Bowl during the 3 or 4yr window left in Jamaal's football career. The Chiefs need a back with a window that coincides with when the Chiefs might realistically contend for a Super Bowl, someone who might peak in the next 40 or 50 years. Theoretically, they should be in the Super Bowl hunt in the 2015 season. They should have an outside shot this season if they don't suffer injuries at key positions. Considering that they reeled off a 9-0 start last season and were in the playoffs and should have won that game if not for some seriously inexcusably bad plays by Dwayne Bowe, Kendrick Lewis and Dunta Robinson as well as injuries to Jamaal Charles and Brandon Flowers (in addition to a hobbled Houston), while operating in a new system with an entirely new coaching staff on both sides of the ball and with a totally new QB roster, this is a team that should seriously contend for at least one or two playoff wins in 2014 and, if they keep the offensive line and QB together, add one more weapon at WR (or someone emerges), they should be Super Bowl ready by the 2015 season. Offensively, we will be better simply by building on the continuity and experience of last season, which saw the offense operating at a NFL Top 5/10 level the last half of the season. Getting Fisher and Stephenson at their correct positions (LT and RT respectively) will help. Charles, while 27, has really only played four seasons in the NFL and left after his junior year in college. There is ample tread left on those tires and the Chiefs coaching staff was getting Knile Davis more involved in the run and spreading Charles out more as the season went along. This will help preserve Charles as well. And having a healthy Fasano and Kelce will be significant. Reid's offense has always utilized the tight end a lot, but last season, due to injuries, was forced to lean on a guy who was a rookie with only one year of very, very small college ball under his belt (McGrath). And while he performed admirably all things considered, it hampered the effectiveness of Smith in the system. (Smith was a different QB when Fasano was in the game, especially in the beginning of the season.) In addition, while Smith received the "game manager" tag around here, he was basically forced to do so due to the limitations he had at WR, TE and the inexperience of the offensive line (which was basically all "rookies" as starters with the exception of Albert). Especially against the good teams. As the season wore on, Smith began to open it up and by the time the playoff game came around the guy was slinging it, even without Charles in the lineup. You'll see substantially more of that this season and substantially less of the game manager. Guaranteed. Defensively, we are going to be better by subtraction, where guys like Lewis and Robinson and Jackson are gone. The presence of Vance Walker will be a boon to Houston and Hali and Mays will be a tone setter on a defense that, at times, lacked a true killer instinct. (Dude can't cover much in the pass, but he'll tear a guys head off if he gets the chance.) In addition, we've upgraded our Special Teams from a personnel perspective. Guys like Albert Wilson, Dan Sorensen, Sanders Commings, De'anthony Thomas were all special teams aces and should immediately upgrade that area, especially under the tutelage of Dave Toub. There is nobody in the AFC that scares me. The Donkeys retooled their defense and TJ Ward is their most important free agent acquisition and will have an impact, but they lost some key players on offense (notably Eric Decker and Zane Beadles) and the loss of those two will be noticeable. As well, Manning is another year older as is his arm. In all honesty, the Chiefs have as good a chance as anybody in the AFC and should be better this season simply based on the continuity of the team in the system. The talent is there, especially on the defensive side of the ball where we are better by subtraction (Lewis, Robinson, Jackson). The NFC West is the class of the NFL right now, but they aren't the end all be all. Seattle lost contributing defensive players and their offense with Wilson is questionable at best, as is the Rams with Bradford and the 49ers with Kaepernick. The 2014 Chiefs should be just fine and by the end of the season, they'll be in contention for the AFC West lead.
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