Chiefs Things to consider upon last night's ending - Page 2

pugsnotdrugs19 · 09-18-2015, 09:22 AM

Alright, that sh*t last night hurt. Bad. Five turnovers, often terrible play calls, and inability to execute left us all feeling like dogsh*t. But hear me out on a few takeaways here.

1. This ain't over between KC and Denver. With these two defenses playing top 5 level football right now, this has all the makings of a rivalry like the one Seattle and San Fran had a couple years ago. It even started getting a little chippy several times for once.

2. Sean Smith. This is good and bad, because it basically means we aren't in good position to watch him walk in FA next year, but the bottom line is he will be back. Marcus Peters looks like a #1 corner already through TWO games. Get Smith back, plug Gaines into the slot and all of the sudden a defense that already looks really solid becomes even better. It's what we need to close the gap.

3. Next time we play Denver, we are coming off of a bye. You can bet after this game KC is gonna come into their place wanting that one, and with Reid's track record with bye week's, I don't think we can feel beat already with that one whatsoever. Maybe by then Fisher will have his ass in gear and be able to block Von Miller just a tad, unlike Jah (who gave his best efforts)

In closing again I will say, last night sucked. It gets old with the way this team seems to get your hopes up just to pull the rug out at the end, no doubt. But greater teams have lost in bad ways before. (NE @ Arrowhead 2014....) I'm just saying. One game doesn't make or break a season no matter how bad we wanted to beat Denver or the fact that we should have. We were -4 in the turnover margin and still had a great shot at a win. That's a sign of a really, really good team.

Patrick Allen said it best:

This isn't over. This Chiefs team is good. Really good. Not likely to have another 5 turnover game again. They'll be ok.
— Patrick Allen (@RPatrickAllen) September 18, 2015

It ain't over guys. Walk away from the ledge because whether you're down right now or not, if I had told you we would be -4 in turnovers there's not a person in the country who would have thought it to be this close. Denver is very good, particularly on defense, and these two are top 5 teams in the AFC. DON'T GIVE UP NOW, SEAN IS COMING!

Hootie · 09-18-2015, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

They're not even a wild card team bruh.

Chiefs are easily a 10 win team on defense alone. We'll go 11-5 and snatch the 5 seed.

Discuss Thrower · 09-18-2015, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Chiefs are easily a 10 win team on defense alone. We'll go 11-5 and snatch the 5 seed.

9-7, 7th seed in the AFC behind Buffalo and Miami. Mark it the **** down.

And that's being optimistic. They're probably going to finish sub -.500 based on how hard the schedule is.

Hootie · 09-18-2015, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

9-7, 7th seed in the AFC behind Buffalo and Miami. Mark it the **** down.

Ok. Maybe. Neither of us know ... I know I was at a game where the only way to lose is the way we lost. I know Denver is a top NFL team and we were the better team. So, while I was devastated with the outcome, per the norm as a chiefs fan ... This roster is Seattle-esque

**fan4ever** · 09-18-2015, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Eh, they'll top out at 12 but yeah. They're not losing a divisional game this year.

I don't see 12 or 13 wins...their D isn't going to keep winning games for them scoring touchdowns...and I can at least see San Diego winning at home against them.

ThaVirus · 09-18-2015, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

They're not even a wild card team bruh.

This isn't true.

After Manning scrapped Kubiak's offense and started going no-huddle, they started moving the ball. Manning is still the same guy; he's just playing behind a much worse offensive line in an offensive system that doesn't match his strengths.

With their defense and Manning doing his thing, they're a 13 win team. We barely lost to them in a game in which we gave up 5 turnovers. Seriously. We gave them the ball twice backed up behind our own 20 and another on our side of the field with DAT's fumble and still only allowed 24 points. Our defense is top notch and will stifle all but the very best of offenses.

Do you honestly expect to see another game this season in which we commit 5 turnovers?

Discuss Thrower · 09-18-2015, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Ok. Maybe. Neither of us know ... I know I was at a game where the only way to lose is the way we lost. I know Denver is a top NFL team and we were the better team. So, while I was devastated with the outcome, per the norm as a chiefs fan ... This roster is Seattle-esque

Dunno how they were the better team when they lost by 7 points Hoot. That reads a lot like Cassel grading out perfectly or whatever.

But this isn't a double digit winning team barring actually earning a playoff victory. The ceiling is 9-7 and that's not going to be good enough for a berth this year.

ThaVirus · 09-18-2015, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

9-7, 7th seed in the AFC behind Buffalo and Miami. Mark it the **** down.

And that's being optimistic. They're probably going to finish sub -.500 based on how hard the schedule is.

I don't think you've ever been right about anything. Excuse me if I don't believe a ****ing thing you say.

Discuss Thrower · 09-18-2015, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

This isn't true.

After Manning scrapped Kubiak's offense and started going no-huddle, they started moving the ball. Manning is still the same guy; he's just playing behind a much worse offensive line in an offensive system that doesn't match his strengths.

With their defense and Manning doing his thing, they're a 13 win team. We barely lost to them in a game in which we gave up 5 turnovers. Seriously. We gave them the ball twice backed up behind our own 20 and another on our side of the field with DAT's fumble and still only allowed 24 points. Our defense is top notch and will stifle all but the very best of offenses.

Do you honestly expect to see another game this season in which we commit 5 turnovers?

I can see another game with -2 or worse on give/take ratio. Absolutely.

Pablo · 09-18-2015, 10:38 AM

We AREN'T the better team. We were pretty evenly matched heading into this thing and we shit directly down our legs to concede the better team title to Denver. We'll just have to live with that until we beat them. I know, that's never going to happen.

mcaj22 · 09-18-2015, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

This isn't true.

After Manning scrapped Kubiak's offense and started going no-huddle, they started moving the ball. Manning is still the same guy; he's just playing behind a much worse offensive line in an offensive system that doesn't match his strengths.

With their defense and Manning doing his thing, they're a 13 win team. We barely lost to them in a game in which we gave up 5 turnovers. Seriously. We gave them the ball twice backed up behind our own 20 and another on our side of the field with DAT's fumble and still only allowed 24 points. Our defense is top notch and will stifle all but the very best of offenses.

Do you honestly expect to see another game this season in which we commit 5 turnovers?

but our offense, mainly the QB/HC is playing defense against our elite defense. Thats how we are going to lose the games we lose this year; our inconsistent offense.

Discuss Thrower · 09-18-2015, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I don't think you've ever been right about anything. Excuse me if I don't believe a ****ing thing you say.

If you insist senor.

**The Franchise** · 09-18-2015, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I don't think you've ever been right about anything. Excuse me if I don't believe a ****ing thing you say.

I'd take his dating advice before I believe anything he says about football.

Hootie · 09-18-2015, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Dunno how they were the better team when they lost by 7 points Hoot. That reads a lot like Cassel grading out perfectly or whatever.

But this isn't a double digit winning team barring actually earning a playoff victory. The ceiling is 9-7 and that's not going to be good enough for a berth this year.

Because the better team doesn't always win the game. The better team yesterday lost. The chiefs beat themselves

Discuss Thrower · 09-18-2015, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I'd take his dating advice before I believe anything he says about football.

Top shelf smack there.

But whatever. It should have been obvious to anyone that the combination of Smith, Reid, a good but not great defense wasn't going to produce a better result than last season.

Pablo · 09-18-2015, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Because the better team doesn't always win the game. The better team yesterday lost. The chiefs beat themselves

Do you expect us to win the division?

I mean, we are the better team and all that.

09-18-2015, 09:22 AM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9119447	Things to consider upon last night's ending Alright, that sht last night hurt. Bad. Five turnovers, often terrible play calls, and inability to execute left us all feeling like dogsht. But hear me out on a few takeaways here. 1. This ain't over between KC and Denver. With these two defenses playing top 5 level football right now, this has all the makings of a rivalry like the one Seattle and San Fran had a couple years ago. It even started getting a little chippy several times for once. 2. Sean Smith. This is good and bad, because it basically means we aren't in good position to watch him walk in FA next year, but the bottom line is he will be back. Marcus Peters looks like a #1 corner already through TWO games. Get Smith back, plug Gaines into the slot and all of the sudden a defense that already looks really solid becomes even better. It's what we need to close the gap. 3. Next time we play Denver, we are coming off of a bye. You can bet after this game KC is gonna come into their place wanting that one, and with Reid's track record with bye week's, I don't think we can feel beat already with that one whatsoever. Maybe by then Fisher will have his ass in gear and be able to block Von Miller just a tad, unlike Jah (who gave his best efforts) In closing again I will say, last night sucked. It gets old with the way this team seems to get your hopes up just to pull the rug out at the end, no doubt. But greater teams have lost in bad ways before. (NE @ Arrowhead 2014....) I'm just saying. One game doesn't make or break a season no matter how bad we wanted to beat Denver or the fact that we should have. We were -4 in the turnover margin and still had a great shot at a win. That's a sign of a really, really good team. Patrick Allen said it best: This isn't over. This Chiefs team is good. Really good. Not likely to have another 5 turnover game again. They'll be ok. — Patrick Allen (@RPatrickAllen) September 18, 2015 It ain't over guys. Walk away from the ledge because whether you're down right now or not, if I had told you we would be -4 in turnovers there's not a person in the country who would have thought it to be this close. Denver is very good, particularly on defense, and these two are top 5 teams in the AFC. DON'T GIVE UP NOW, SEAN IS COMING!
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Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $1749356	We AREN'T the better team. We were pretty evenly matched heading into this thing and we shit directly down our legs to concede the better team title to Denver. We'll just have to live with that until we beat them. I know, that's never going to happen.
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