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Old 01-12-2016, 10:21 AM  
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Chiefs/Pats the gamblers are talking

The over/under or total points for the game opened at 45.5 and now sitting at 42 according to Scores and Odds. That is a dramatic drop on any NFL game.

Pats are now at -5

I seriously don't think I can recall a Tom Brady led Patriots team ever having a matchup with a total this low.


Let's go KC D
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Old 01-12-2016, 01:07 PM   #16
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What does "give back the points" mean? I have never really been a sports gambler.
Taking the Chiefs straight up without the +5 that you would otherwise get..
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Old 01-12-2016, 01:20 PM   #17
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yah the over under is scary

but i think im gonna lay 50 on the chiefs, and give back the 5 points and then take the over as a parlay.

ill see how much that pans out to but probably 50 to win 400 or something
So, how does a person go about placing a bet . Other than traveling to Vegas ?
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Old 01-12-2016, 01:28 PM   #18
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Our defense plays a part in that as well, no doubt.

Probably our offense too.
That's a significant drop.

Maybe Edelman can't go...?
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:03 PM   #19
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Pats 24, Chiefs 21.

My prediction. If the Chiefs win this game though, they are going to Super Bowl.

Big Ben has torn ligaments in shoulder. If we play Pitt we get home game, if we play Denver I like the way we match up with them especially with Peyton Manning throwing ducks.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:08 PM   #20
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So, how does a person go about placing a bet . Other than traveling to Vegas ?
Send a Paypal to hootie, and he'll take care of it for you.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:17 PM   #21
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That's a significant drop.

Maybe Edelman can't go...?
Pretty sure I read somewhere he's a full on go for this weekend.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:23 PM   #22
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:25 PM   #24
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So, how does a person go about placing a bet . Other than traveling to Vegas ?
Im using a bookie from argentina, ive used them for literally years (offshore)

www.sportsbetting.ag

Theyre really good...they used to have WAY more options on player prop parlay cards and crazy stuff, but for just straight up betting on any sport they are decent. Ive had some kind of balance for like 5+ years (often like 100$ or more) and theyve never ****ed with my cash at all. Its always there when i come back (I rarely place non football bets) *edit also I have never had a problem getting them to pay me. Last couple years ive just left it in there, i only pay out when i hit a big one.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:30 PM   #25
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So, how does a person go about placing a bet . Other than traveling to Vegas ?
I simply make a phone call,you can also go to a site like this I know some people who bet thru them and have never had a problem collecting,and they now have Chiefs +5 1/2
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:32 PM   #26
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What does "give back the points" mean? I have never really been a sports gambler.

theres ATS (which is against the spread) so like for this game you will see

Chiefs +5
Patriots

or

Patriots - 5
Chiefs


That means basically thats the math to make the bet more or less 50/50 (and even money bet), So in this case if you just want to say bet 100$ and win 100$ if youre right you can take the underdog and ADD points to their score or take the favorite and subtract points. (***this isnt exact, it is simplified...and close enough for a brief discussion)

SO in this case if you wanted to bet the chiefs (+5) you would place your +5 bet and at the end of the game, add 5 points to the chiefs score. If they win with that extra 5 points, you win! If they still lose, even with that extra 5, you lose....If its a tie...most places call that a 'push' and you simply get a refund on your bet.

So lets say you bet this game like that..(chiefs +5) and thie chiefs lose the game 17-20...well you would add 5, so YOUR score for the purposes of YOUR bet would be 22-20, in favor of the Chiefs so you would win your bet...You would win $100 plus your $100 back ($200 total).

Now...

To your question:

if you give up the right to those 5 points, you would get more than 100$. (because your bet is more risky)

For example:

Right now, if you bet the chiefs straight up to win, and do not take the 5 points you would win about $200. So that hundred could make you an exra hundred...(100$ bet, wins $200 - plus you get your $100 bet back = $300 total) but the chiefs would need to win the game outright, adding 0 points


Sorry for the long explanation you probably knew alot of that but basically that was for anyone lurking who might be wondering about it.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:36 PM   #27
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Just for funzies I'm thinking about placing a bet or 2 on NE.

So I have something to celebrate after the game, no matter what.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:41 PM   #28
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Just for funzies I'm thinking about placing a bet or 2 on NE.

So I have something to celebrate after the game, no matter what.
You better bet moneyline then
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:46 PM   #29
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You better bet moneyline then
the money line is kind of ugly on the pats

50$ risk to win 25$


I dunno

I wouldnt ever bet against the chiefs in a game, but even if I did....I would shy away from that type of bet I think...

Maybe unless you just KNEW the pats were gonna win and wanted to put like 500$ on it to win $250 or something

I like the flipped around odds better

Chiefs if you bet $100 you win $200 (double instead of half)
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to me 'funzies' would be making a bunch of parlay cards that are like 4-6 teamers each, and putting like 20 bucks each on them and maybe get like 10 of them so even if one hits you break even and if 2+ hit you win big...

I dunno..

each to their own on 'funzies' i guess
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