Fatal flaw in QB play

[O.city]

Slow day here, let's drive some conversation.

With the Rams moving up for a qb and these young qbs coming into the league taking over for the old guard, I think there are some interesting questions to be asked.

When looking at qb prospects, which "flaws" that they might have do you consider fatal?

So now you may ask, "o.city, define fatal flaws". Well, to me, it's inconsistencies that can't be learned or corrected.

The biggest one to me for a young qb, is accuracy issues. I feel too much of that is an innate thing that either you have or you dont and I consider qbs who struggle with accuracy to have a fatal flaw.

So, which flaws do you consider fatal?

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by 65TPT

Over hyped college QBs with too much confidence. The cocky ones crash and burn.

Yep... just like Kaepernick, Vince Young, Manziel.

[GloucesterChief]

Pro style doesn't mean success. Look at the USC QBs in the NFL.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Yep... just like Kaepernick, Vince Young, Manziel.

Yeah, the cockyness of brady and manning really hurt them.

Same with big ben, rivers, (insert good qb)

Elite athletes are cocky. They have to be. It comes with the territory.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, the cockyness of brady and manning really hurt them.

Same with big ben, rivers, (insert good qb)

Elite athletes are cocky. They have to be. It comes with the territory.

There's a difference between confidence and arrogance.

Calling Kaep, Vince, and Manziel elite is pure stupidity.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

There's a difference between confidence and arrogance.

Calling Kaep, Vince, and Manziel elite is pure stupidity.

Didn't say they were. Reading comprehension.

It's not arrogant if you can back it up.

[Bowser]

Ultimately, it comes down to how well the QB can read a defense. That kind of plays into my thoughts on spread option guys - if your first or maybe second read is covered, run. They never are taught to read where the blitz is coming from or how the safeties influence the defense - just if their first read is open and then find the running lane.

Intelligence and coachability are what QB's need.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

I think confidence aND work ethic can be, not taught but maybe incorporated for lack of better term?

Confidence comes from success, success comes from prep, so it's hand in hand I guess.

If you're having to teach those things to a 22 year old than you're screwed

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

If you're having to teach those things to a 22 year old than you're screwed

True.

But guys aren't making it to the nfl without confidence and work ethic.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by O.city

Slow day here, let's drive some conversation.

With the Rams moving up for a qb and these young qbs coming into the league taking over for the old guard, I think there are some interesting questions to be asked.

When looking at qb prospects, which "flaws" that they might have do you consider fatal?

So now you may ask, "o.city, define fatal flaws". Well, to me, it's inconsistencies that can't be learned or corrected.

The biggest one to me for a young qb, is accuracy issues. I feel too much of that is an innate thing that either you have or you dont and I consider qbs who struggle with accuracy to have a fatal flaw.

So, which flaws do you consider fatal?

See kapernick, RGIII and Johnny football.

[tk13]

Work ethic has to be up there. It's why guys like Manziel and Geno never make it. The funny thing is fans deep down know this yet they want to draft those guys anyway. It's basically writing a ticket to throw away at least 2 seasons. "At least they tried." No, no they really didn't. These aren't lottery tickets, they're human beings.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by O.city

Slow day here, let's drive some conversation.

With the Rams moving up for a qb and these young qbs coming into the league taking over for the old guard, I think there are some interesting questions to be asked.

When looking at qb prospects, which "flaws" that they might have do you consider fatal?

So now you may ask, "o.city, define fatal flaws". Well, to me, it's inconsistencies that can't be learned or corrected.

The biggest one to me for a young qb, is accuracy issues. I feel too much of that is an innate thing that either you have or you dont and I consider qbs who struggle with accuracy to have a fatal flaw.

So, which flaws do you consider fatal?

As a Colts fan, accuracy is the biggest weakness I see in Andrew Luck. He can be accurate as anyone for stretches but the lose it for long periods. He's a streaky accurate qb.

His arm, intelligence, pocket awareness, everything else is superb. He just needs to work on being consistently accurate.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by tk13

Work ethic has to be up there. It's why guys like Manziel and Geno never make it. The funny thing is fans deep down know this yet they want to draft those guys anyway. It's basically writing a ticket to throw away at least 2 seasons. "At least they tried." No, no they really didn't. These aren't lottery tickets, they're human beings.

[Coochie liquor]

Getting drafted by the Browns

[OldSchool]

The Manziel Disease.

[threebag]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Ultimately, it comes down to how well the QB can read a defense. That kind of plays into my thoughts on spread option guys - if your first or maybe second read is covered, run. They never are taught to read where the blitz is coming from or how the safeties influence the defense - just if their first read is open and then find the running lane.

Intelligence and coachability are what QB's need.

This is the boat i am in.