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Old 05-02-2016, 10:35 AM   #1
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Murray didn't play much slot, so that might be an adjustment. Our scout said Murray could play CB and Safety.

I can see us using Murray as a box safety kinda like what we're doing with Fleming. He's a tough SOB with athleticism to cover.
Interesting you mention this, because I noticed every corner we drafted is a really good tackler. I'm thinking we use more corners than safeties this year in our sub packages.
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Old 05-02-2016, 10:50 AM   #2
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Interesting you mention this, because I noticed every corner we drafted is a really good tackler. I'm thinking we use more corners than safeties this year in our sub packages.
Yup. He's got a little hip tightness but is relatively smooth. He needs to quit this grabbing shit BC it got him flagged too many times at Minnesota. Vs Iowa he Locked a WR's arm and got a deserved PI.
I like Murray as a CB, but he'd be great as a SS/flexible CB IMO.

Gaines is our best slot guy by far and Parker is also solid there. Nelson had a 6.80 3 cone and showed solid transitional movement there. Those are me 3 slot guys with Russell as a backup option in case of injury.

Love having the depth though.
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Old 05-02-2016, 10:38 AM   #3
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As a long term fan of the team, I want Russel to start and I'd LOVE to see Murray take the NB job from Gaines.

I love the way Gaines plays, but he's injury prone and these guys we drafted are all very good.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't he only had the one ACL injury? Not sure if that means he's "injury prone" ala Commings. Ideally he's able to step back in and be fine.

The dude was a pass break-up machine in college and looked pretty good so far in the league.
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Old 05-02-2016, 10:42 AM   #4
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't he only had the one ACL injury? Not sure if that means he's "injury prone" ala Commings. Ideally he's able to step back in and be fine.

The dude was a pass break-up machine in college and looked pretty good so far in the league.
He had a concussion too his rookie year, and battled some injuries in college, but I agree, while healthy he's the nickel. Most experienced corner we have.
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Old 05-02-2016, 10:36 AM   #5
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Russell and Gaines will battle it out at camp, my bet is Russell ends up winning.
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Old 05-02-2016, 10:48 AM   #6
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Who starts at corner?

I hope they don't PS White. Another team would steal him pretty quick.

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Old 05-02-2016, 10:58 AM   #7
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It looks like Murray is replacing Abdullah from what I saw. Arrowhead pride made that analogy, which makes sense.

KeiVarae Russell>>Sean Smith
Eric Murray>>Husain Abdullah
DJ White>>Marcus Cooper
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Old 05-02-2016, 11:11 AM   #8
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It looks like Murray is replacing Abdullah from what I saw. Arrowhead pride made that analogy, which makes sense.

KeiVarae Russell>>Sean Smith
Eric Murray>>Husain Abdullah
DJ White>>Marcus Cooper
Yeah, I see Russel and Smith's replacement and Murray as Abdullah's replacement.

I really like the little bit I've seen out of the Tre Jones kid we picked up. I'm really hoping he sticks as well. Constantly spying the QB looking for picks. Reminds me a lot of Peters with how he's always tracking the QB and jumps routes.
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Old 05-02-2016, 11:14 AM   #9
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Old 05-02-2016, 11:33 AM   #10
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Maybe they plan on using the kid from Minnesota more in a hybrid role, but what does it say about nelson that they just poured so many resources into the corner spot?

Especially a year after taking him in the 3rd round
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Maybe they plan on using the kid from Minnesota more in a hybrid role, but what does it say about nelson that they just poured so many resources into the corner spot?

Especially a year after taking him in the 3rd round
I don't think it says anything if they plan on using more corners than safeties in our sub packages like I expect.

Every corner we drafted is a great tackler and could make the transition to safety if need be.

We're losing Smith, Cooper and Flemming (S) at corner, and we drafted 3 to replace them. Two were on day 3.
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I don't think it says anything if they plan on using more corners than safeties in our sub packages like I expect.

Every corner we drafted is a great tackler and could make the transition to safety if need be.

We're losing Smith, Cooper and Flemming (S) at corner, and we drafted 3 to replace them. Two were on day 3.
That would go against what they've done up to this point, in terms of safeties in subs.

From my POV, if they wanted safeties they should have taken safeties instead of potential conversion guys. They did take them late though so I doubt they're planning on counting on many of them to do much this year.
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That would go against what they've done up to this point, in terms of safeties in subs.

From my POV, if they wanted safeties they should have taken safeties instead of potential conversion guys. They did take them late though so I doubt they're planning on counting on many of them to do much this year.
I disagree. We end up having a lot of safeties in man coverage in our sub packages. I'd rather have a corner (that can tackle) there than a safety that isn't as comfortable in man coverage. It's not like we're asking them to play centerfield or in a SS/LB hybrid role.
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I disagree. We end up having a lot of safeties in man coverage in our sub packages. I'd rather have a corner (that can tackle) there than a safety that isn't as comfortable in man coverage. It's not like we're asking them to play centerfield or in a SS/LB hybrid role.
If you're wanting one of them to fill the abdullah role, that is exactly what you're asking them to do.

Having a corner that can tackle isn't a terrible idea, but isually, those guys don't tend to be the most skilled at the things you want that hybrid guy to do.
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