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Old 10-13-2016, 07:45 PM  
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#58 Von Miller vs. #58 DT
Had an interesting discussion at the gym about Miller v. Thomas. Now, to be fair we both agreed that the Chiefs would love to have Miller.

But when you break down the pass rushing, Miller is typically going against the RT where as Thomas was typically going against the LT. We both were of the opinion that DT was a better pass rusher simply because the LT position is usually played by better players compared to the RT position.

How much of a difference do you think there is facing a LT v. RT on every down?
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:52 PM   #16
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Miller is a more complete player than DT ever was
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:54 PM   #17
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:55 PM   #18
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Miller is a more complete player than DT ever was
The only reason you think that is because you watched DT on a 13" B&W and you watch VM on a 19" big screen.
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:58 PM   #19
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I love that he idols DT. But the only way to pass him would not get caught with peds or injury and play 12 plus years. Playing with Peyton and winning a superbowl helps a lot. Jusy imagine what would of been if marty didn't marty in the playoffs.

Yep. I loved Marty, but that guy was the most consistent Coach I ever saw once he got to the playoffs - you KNEW he was going to piss down his leg.

Derrick? I will contend to my dying day that he was one of the top two or three Linebackers EVER in the NFL. Loved watching him play every week - and when Smith was on the other side - it was pure heaven.
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Old 10-14-2016, 07:14 PM   #20
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Miller is a more complete player than DT ever was
Better run defender is the one area von is better. Otherwise, OG DT.
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Better run defender is the one area von is better. Otherwise, OG DT.

Have to give DT the edge in pass rushing but Miller is probably a lot better against the run.
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Old 10-14-2016, 07:35 PM   #22
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DT got 20 sacks in a run first league. The guy would break the single season sack record in today's NFL.
The guy got more than a third of those 20 sacks in one game that year. And while teams do pass the ball more in Von's era, they're also using the quick passing game much more.
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Miller is a fine LB - but he's no Derrick Thomas. Thomas would punish QB's all day. Ask Elway. He HATED coming to Arrowhead. Now, maybe before Miller is done, he will surpass DT - and I'm biased as hell, but right now, at least in my mind - he is well behind Derrick.
Miller is a SB MVP. Thomas was clowned by Sharpe. Clowned.
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Good god.

Derrick Thomas is a Hall of Famer and one of the best pass rushers the league has ever seen.

Von Miller has had TWO great seasons. Let's slow the roll a little here . . . . .
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Miller is a SB MVP. Thomas was clowned by Sharpe. Clowned.
So what.

Von Miller was clowned by Mitchell Schwartz in a game last year. See the problem with your argument here?

Your logic is not very 'sharpe' on this one.
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Well, like I said in the OP...typically LT's are better than RT's. If Miller had to go up against LT's like Thomas did, I don't think Miller gets as many sacks or pressures as he has.
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The guy got more than a third of those 20 sacks in one game that year. And while teams do pass the ball more in Von's era, they're also using the quick passing game much more.
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