Football Why is Jared Goff still on the Rams bench?? - Page 2

Deberg_1990 · 11-07-2016, 05:33 PM

I dont get it? Why did they draft him if they dont believe in him???

Jared Goff must be terrible.

That's pretty much the only conclusion that one can draw at this point after Los Angeles Rams head coach Jeff Fisher once again declined to put Goff in the game on Sunday, even though as of halftime against Carolina, his team hadn't scored in six straight quarters. Not only that, they were playing at home and coming off a bye week in which this year's No. 1 overall pick reportedly got more reps with the first team offense. What more could Fisher ask for than that?

If the argument is that Fisher didn't want to insert Goff in the middle of a game or at a time when he didn't get reps all week and know he was going to be the starter going into the game, that's somewhat understandable. But only if Goff starts now. As in, this week.

Fisher said after Case Keenum threw four interceptions in a loss to the New York Giants in London in Week 7 that he'd be more likely to make a change at wide receiver than he would at quarterback. He said after the game on Sunday that he didn't hear the fans chanting "We Want Goff," even though everybody else in the Coliseum did.

At this point, the only thing more inexplicable than Case Keenum's job security is Jeff Fisher's job security.

In each case, the decision maker seems perfectly content with a slightly below average existence, a rarity in pro sports and with good reason.

Fisher's only possible reasons for keeping Keenum under center instead of Goff at this point is Fisher's belief that either Goff isn't ready or that Keenum gives the Rams the best chance to win. Either way, it doesn't bode well for Goff and his future with the Rams.

If he's still not ready to play, that should be awfully troubling to the Rams fans out there that watch the Cowboys' fourth-round rookie Dak Prescott lead his team to a 7-1 record or the Eagles' No. 2 overall pick Carson Wentz throw for close to 400 yards on the road in an effort to keep his team in the thick of the playoff race. Even Cody Kessler, a third-round pick for the winless Browns, looks like a competent NFL quarterback out there on a weekly basis. Yet Goff may still not "be ready"?

And even if we buy that Goff isn't quite ready to play, whatever that means, what does that say about him? What are the odds that a guy that evidently isn't ready to play midway through his rookie season goes on to have a storied career as a franchise quarterback? It's not a real encouraging start that this thing is headed in that direction.

The other possibility is simply that Keenum still gives the Rams the best chance to win. Based on the team and Keenum's performance in four straight losses, what does that say about Goff? We're talking about a journeyman quarterback in Keenum that has eight interceptions during this four-game stretch and went over 115 minutes of game time before finally getting his team a touchdown with a pass to Kenny Britt on Sunday. That's almost two full games without getting in the end zone.

The Browns evidently believe Kessler gives them a better chance to win than veteran Josh McCown. The Eagles felt the same way about Wentz and Chase Daniel. Heck, even the Cowboys think Prescott is the right guy for the job in Dallas instead of Tony Romo, even though they won't admit it publicly yet.

But Goff can't give the Rams a better chance than Keenum?

Fisher's reluctance to play the guy the team mortgaged its future to obtain brings up more questions than answers at this point.

When will this lack of faith start to affect Goff's confidence?

Just as importantly, what message is Fisher sending to the rest of the team as it relates to Goff?

Players want to win and if they agree with Fisher that Keenum gives them the best chance to do so, then they likely aren't complaining. But again, what does that say about Goff? And really, how much worse can you get than not being able to score any touchdowns?

No matter what the logic or reasoning is to this point, it all circles back to Goff either not being good or not being ready, either one of which is highly concerning.

It feels like Fisher has been trying to buy both himself and Goff as much time as possible by delaying the inevitable, but that time is now up.

It's time for Goff to show what he's got.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article...-fisher-week-9

Skyy God · 11-07-2016, 07:06 PM

Like most things Jeff Fisher, it probably involves trying to keep his job despite being a terrible coach.

RunKC · 11-07-2016, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Dak, wentz just to name two from this season alone.

Dak looks good bc he has the best OL in the NFL giving him ample time to throw. He'd look like ass in LA

**Buehler445** · 11-07-2016, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

Dak looks good bc he has the best OL in the NFL giving him ample time to throw. He'd look like ass in LA

I will say his poise in the pocket is pretty good. But after the 50th time he got blown up, it probably wouldn't be.

l4z4rd · 11-07-2016, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Dak, wentz just to name two from this season alone.

Dak has the best O Line in the league and no team has been able to stop their running game which opens up the field for him.

PunkinDrublic · 11-07-2016, 07:38 PM

Because that's 8-8 shit!

Marcellus · 11-07-2016, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Why? That's easy. Because Jeff Fisher is a moron. No other explanation.

/thread

ping2000 · 11-07-2016, 07:46 PM

PutQuinnIn · 11-07-2016, 07:49 PM

Jeff Fisher says he's not ready. Fisher also said he didn't hear 80,000 fans yesterday chanting "we want Goff!"

**SAUTO** · 11-07-2016, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

Dak looks good bc he has the best OL in the NFL giving him ample time to throw. He'd look like ass in LA

What did that have to do with the question asked?

**The Franchise** · 11-07-2016, 07:51 PM

At this point.....it's worthless to start him. Let him get an offseason in the weight room and work on his mechanics. Hopefully next year he won't have Fisher coaching him....and he'll be better off.

Valiant · 11-07-2016, 09:00 PM

I just think he is learning the nfl speed and a nfl playbook. GUy didn't have that in college. He is behind because of it. They do not want to throw him to the wolves. Fisher is old school, probably still believes sit a rookie qb two years.

I believe sink or swim, especially if the starter sucks. BUt there are still nfl coaches that do not. FISHER was not going to be there long anyway. MAybe owners are setting up the scapegoat for shitty season?

Red Dawg · 11-07-2016, 09:05 PM

I doubt they dump Fisher just to hand Goff to a coach that doesn't want him. Didn't they give amongst ransom to get him? No way he gets canned.

**lewdog** · 11-07-2016, 09:06 PM

I firmly believe Goff is too reeruned to handle an NFL playbook this year.

Did any of you watch Hard Knocks?!

**wazu** · 11-07-2016, 09:25 PM

If starting Goff is a bad idea, then he never should have been drafted where he was. I think they should start him, though.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-07-2016, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu

If starting Goff is a bad idea, then he never should have been drafted where he was. I think they should start him, though.

This has been Milkman's rationale for years: Draft a QB and make him sit.

And as I've always said, it's ****ing bullshit.

If a team takes a guy in the Top 5, let alone gives up a **** ton of draft choices, he NEEDS to start immediately.

This isn't 1970 or even 2005.

11-07-2016, 05:33 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3454454	Why is Jared Goff still on the Rams bench?? I dont get it? Why did they draft him if they dont believe in him??? Jared Goff must be terrible. That's pretty much the only conclusion that one can draw at this point after Los Angeles Rams head coach Jeff Fisher once again declined to put Goff in the game on Sunday, even though as of halftime against Carolina, his team hadn't scored in six straight quarters. Not only that, they were playing at home and coming off a bye week in which this year's No. 1 overall pick reportedly got more reps with the first team offense. What more could Fisher ask for than that? If the argument is that Fisher didn't want to insert Goff in the middle of a game or at a time when he didn't get reps all week and know he was going to be the starter going into the game, that's somewhat understandable. But only if Goff starts now. As in, this week. Fisher said after Case Keenum threw four interceptions in a loss to the New York Giants in London in Week 7 that he'd be more likely to make a change at wide receiver than he would at quarterback. He said after the game on Sunday that he didn't hear the fans chanting "We Want Goff," even though everybody else in the Coliseum did. At this point, the only thing more inexplicable than Case Keenum's job security is Jeff Fisher's job security. In each case, the decision maker seems perfectly content with a slightly below average existence, a rarity in pro sports and with good reason. Fisher's only possible reasons for keeping Keenum under center instead of Goff at this point is Fisher's belief that either Goff isn't ready or that Keenum gives the Rams the best chance to win. Either way, it doesn't bode well for Goff and his future with the Rams. If he's still not ready to play, that should be awfully troubling to the Rams fans out there that watch the Cowboys' fourth-round rookie Dak Prescott lead his team to a 7-1 record or the Eagles' No. 2 overall pick Carson Wentz throw for close to 400 yards on the road in an effort to keep his team in the thick of the playoff race. Even Cody Kessler, a third-round pick for the winless Browns, looks like a competent NFL quarterback out there on a weekly basis. Yet Goff may still not "be ready"? And even if we buy that Goff isn't quite ready to play, whatever that means, what does that say about him? What are the odds that a guy that evidently isn't ready to play midway through his rookie season goes on to have a storied career as a franchise quarterback? It's not a real encouraging start that this thing is headed in that direction. The other possibility is simply that Keenum still gives the Rams the best chance to win. Based on the team and Keenum's performance in four straight losses, what does that say about Goff? We're talking about a journeyman quarterback in Keenum that has eight interceptions during this four-game stretch and went over 115 minutes of game time before finally getting his team a touchdown with a pass to Kenny Britt on Sunday. That's almost two full games without getting in the end zone. The Browns evidently believe Kessler gives them a better chance to win than veteran Josh McCown. The Eagles felt the same way about Wentz and Chase Daniel. Heck, even the Cowboys think Prescott is the right guy for the job in Dallas instead of Tony Romo, even though they won't admit it publicly yet. But Goff can't give the Rams a better chance than Keenum? Fisher's reluctance to play the guy the team mortgaged its future to obtain brings up more questions than answers at this point. When will this lack of faith start to affect Goff's confidence? Just as importantly, what message is Fisher sending to the rest of the team as it relates to Goff? Players want to win and if they agree with Fisher that Keenum gives them the best chance to do so, then they likely aren't complaining. But again, what does that say about Goff? And really, how much worse can you get than not being able to score any touchdowns? No matter what the logic or reasoning is to this point, it all circles back to Goff either not being good or not being ready, either one of which is highly concerning. It feels like Fisher has been trying to buy both himself and Goff as much time as possible by delaying the inevitable, but that time is now up. It's time for Goff to show what he's got. http://www.sportsonearth.com/article...-fisher-week-9
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PutQuinnIn Game Manager Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Casino cash: $9735837	Jeff Fisher says he's not ready. Fisher also said he didn't hear 80,000 fans yesterday chanting "we want Goff!"
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11-07-2016, 07:51 PM	#25
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2575047	At this point.....it's worthless to start him. Let him get an offseason in the weight room and work on his mechanics. Hopefully next year he won't have Fisher coaching him....and he'll be better off.
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11-07-2016, 09:00 PM	#26
Valiant Valiant 'The Thread Killer' Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $6102380	I just think he is learning the nfl speed and a nfl playbook. GUy didn't have that in college. He is behind because of it. They do not want to throw him to the wolves. Fisher is old school, probably still believes sit a rookie qb two years. I believe sink or swim, especially if the starter sucks. BUt there are still nfl coaches that do not. FISHER was not going to be there long anyway. MAybe owners are setting up the scapegoat for shitty season?
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11-07-2016, 09:05 PM	#27
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $4432858	I doubt they dump Fisher just to hand Goff to a coach that doesn't want him. Didn't they give amongst ransom to get him? No way he gets canned. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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11-07-2016, 09:06 PM	#28
lewdog Mod Team Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Valley of the hot as **** Casino cash: $1341900	I firmly believe Goff is too reeruned to handle an NFL playbook this year. Did any of you watch Hard Knocks?!
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11-07-2016, 09:25 PM	#29
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $1642295 VARSITY	If starting Goff is a bad idea, then he never should have been drafted where he was. I think they should start him, though.
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