Movies and TV The Future of the Entertainment Industry - Page 2

Amnorix · 02-15-2018, 03:13 PM

This thread is being started as a spin-off (see what i did there) from the NFL ratings decline thread in the Lounge. Trying to take advantage of Dane's knowledge of the industry, I asked what the future of movie-making is, given the shift in demographics and how younger generations are receiving content.

I also wondered whether movie theaters would go the way of the dodo, or more specifically Blockbuster, and my kids would be telling their kids about how they used to exist but now don't.

banecat · 02-15-2018, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

We've had those types of accomodations for more than 15 years in Hollywood.

I'm not sure of how long they've been available out here in the Midwest, or In SE Texas where I spent last year

This is false. Due to FCC regulations, Over-The-Air broadcast networks will never compete with cable or streaming services due to content, violence, sex and language restrictions.

I only see ads for the shows if I watch a game. It could be how they're marketing them. Making them appear more like a show on basic cable. They will as they have always pressed their boundaries as far as content. Without getting this kicked over to DC, I wonder how long they push their limits before they say **** it, and just pay the fines with how much ratings would skyrocket at least for awhile, or if society's standards can get to a point where either few are offended. Or don't care about such trivial issues

That's because CBS has created their own streaming service, which isn't regulated like OTA broadcast networks by the FCC. All of the CBS All Access programming is available via Netflix X-US.

Steal away? Netflix licenses content that they don't create from the Original Content Creator/owners of the IP.

The Netflix "End Game" is create enough original content to lure subscribers and not so much about licensing other big name content. As of 2019, all of the Disney content moves to Disney's new streaming service.

Yes, I misspoke or mistyped. I don't follow it closely enough. But what I've heard is that for a long time Netflix snatched up what a lot of other companies were passing up. Once they were successful enough they started outbidding the same companies. You'll be able to answer when or if it has happened as to if they're in the same league and people will or are just choosing to work with them

I don't even understand what you're stating here.

When I had Prime I could rent everything from Netflix like House of Cards or OITNB only a season behind. Similar to YouTube offering the same deal

Are you kidding me? Reality TV is going NO WHERE. As for typical Broadcast Network fare, networks will continue to air those types of shows as long as there's a huge audience (i.e., Advertising dollars).

True. Whatever the ratings are showing where advertising dollars will be best spent. Maybe they'll eventually show wrestling seven days a week

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-15-2018, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

International box office is important in a way it never was previously for movies.

Apple recently lost a bidding war on a new JJ Abrams series. It's sort of interesting to see all of these companies jumping into the content creation role. Netflix has really thrown down the money for top producers recently.

It’s the future of at-home entertainment.

People like to leave the house so movie theaters, especially high end theaters, won’t go out of style anytime soon.

**007** · 02-17-2018, 06:26 AM

I'm pretty much done with movie theaters. I just wait for it to go to the local discount theater or wait for the digital version to come out.

I've only gone to maybe three movies in the last 6 months and each time I came away wishing I had just waited for it to be available to watch in the comfort of my own home.

**dirk digler** · 02-17-2018, 08:37 AM

I don't mind going to the theaters but it is pretty pricey especially if you get concessions.

If there was a service that let you watch blockbusters\new releases when they come out at home with a reasonable price then theaters would disappear. And no I am not talking about the movie industry stupid idea of $50\movie or whatever exorbitant price it was.

**BigRedChief** · 02-17-2018, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by banecat

with how many of them are turning into places that serve gourmet food, mixed drinks on recliners it could keep them in business a little longer than if they hadn't tried a transition.

It makes a difference to me whether they have the recliner seats. Every theatre in my area now has the those seats but the one closest to me. Its in a high end part of town and always busy. I guess they are thinking why spend the money to upgrade? I will drive 20-30 minutes father to go to a better theater.

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Originally Posted by banecat

Netflix is interesting as it seems they their competitors have tried to box them out, but it didn't work.

Its about competition. Netflix is spending money on better quality shows, paying top $ to comedians(first Chris Rock,Chappele special in 15 years), getting better actors/Directors for their original content. Everyone of these major entertainment players want their own online streaming option. If it wasn't for this, we'd still be seeing 75% of their original content being unknown actors talking about their feelings in low budget productions.

**BigRedChief** · 02-17-2018, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I don't mind going to the theaters but it is pretty pricey especially if you get concessions.

I'll go to $5 Tuesdays, or the $5 matinees on rainy days. I rarely go full price.We got one of those refillable buckets for popcorn so thats only $4. Its not very cool to carry that into a theatre but I'm not a cool person to anyone but family and friends.

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

If there was a service that let you watch blockbusters\new releases when they come out at home with a reasonable price then theaters would disappear. And no I am not talking about the movie industry stupid idea of $50\movie or whatever exorbitant price it was.

I have an 80in state of the art TV at home with surround sound. Yet, I still like seeing movies on the big screen.I dont see that changing just because I can see it at home on opening weekend.

DJJasonp · 02-17-2018, 09:40 AM

I pretty much agree with most of what Dane is saying except the "not being able to recreate" the movie theater experience at home.

I've spent a chunk on 4k, dolby atmos, etc. etc. I would much rather watch a film at home (with no cell phones/cell phone lights....no teenagers chatting, etc. etc).

That said - I still go to the theater for movies that I dont want to wait for them to be released for home (or I'm afraid I'll see a spoiler on social media).

I think Dane mentioned this in a different thread a while back - going out to a movie, especially with the new theaters with booze, etc. (and throw in food/parking in some places) - it can cost a small fortune.

Mosbonian · 02-17-2018, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

How can someone be educated yet so stupid?

$11.1 billion dollars in box office ticket sales says otherwise.

But here is the question I would have....I know $11B is a big number and everyone touts that.

But what were the expectations and could it have been even larger if theaters appealed to the larger masses.

Honestly...I don't know the answer, but that would be the first question I would ask.

Mosbonian · 02-17-2018, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I'll go to $5 Tuesdays, or the $5 matinees on rainy days. I rarely go full price.We got one of those refillable buckets for popcorn so thats only $4. Its not very cool to carry that into a theatre but I'm not a cool person to anyone but family and friends.

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This is what I do.....I go to the $5 Tuesday movies in the reserved theaters where the reclining seats are nice. And I always wait until the movie has been out a couple of weeks so I am not in a theater with all the distractions that come with the less considerate. (cell phones....chatters and they aren't just teenagers....the guy who likes to narrate the movie because he read the book or just suspects he knows the plot...etc...)

Myself and a group of guys from our church make the Tuesday night out a "guys night" to watch movies we want to see and our wives don't. It's a great way to build friendships...

But I will show my age and say that if I could pay for an "at home" entertainment option for first run movies I would do it in a heartbeat. No worries about the above distractions, I could pause the movie to get more refreshments/bathroom breaks just like I do now with rentals.

I am looking into the MoviePass option....but the recent article I saw about how the industry is saying it is not a sustainable model made me a bit leery. (AMC already balked at certain aspects of participation).

Another article I saw recently spoke to the issue of how "cutting the cord" hasn't been as smooth as everyone thought. I will have to dig that one out.

Mecca · 02-17-2018, 01:09 PM

Is the future of America just being a bunch anti-social schlubs that never want to leave their home?

I want to watch everything at home! I want everything delivered to my home! I get that it's easy but geez man the idea of never leaving the house for anything kinda sucks.

**AustinChief** · 02-17-2018, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Is the future of America just being a bunch anti-social schlubs that never want to leave their home?

I want to watch everything at home! I want everything delivered to my home! I get that it's easy but geez man the idea of never leaving the house for anything kinda sucks.

I love going out and being social but sitting in a movie theater doesn't really seem very social to me. I go to see big visual blockbusters but as home entertainment systems become bigger and better and cheaper I could easily see myself skipping that as well.

Deberg_1990 · 02-17-2018, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Is the future of America just being a bunch anti-social schlubs that never want to leave their home?

I want to watch everything at home! I want everything delivered to my home! I get that it's easy but geez man the idea of never leaving the house for anything kinda sucks.

Yes.

We have all seen Wall-E

That sh*t was dead on accurate

displacedinMN · 02-17-2018, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Yes.

We have all seen Wall-E

That sh*t was dead on accurate

Agree. We are seeing it more every day.
Two kids sit next to each other and spend all the time on their phones. Maybe texting each other. Ugh.

WilliamTheIrish · 02-17-2018, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Is the future of America just being a bunch anti-social schlubs that never want to leave their home?

I want to watch everything at home! I want everything delivered to my home! I get that it's easy but geez man the idea of never leaving the house for anything kinda sucks.

Mecca, talking to others about being a “social schlub “?

**Rausch** · 02-18-2018, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It’s the future of at-home entertainment.

People like to leave the house so movie theaters, especially high end theaters, won’t go out of style anytime soon.

I WILL see IW in the theatre.

In fact I have already taken off and plan to watch it with wife, brother, nephews, and perhaps co-workers.

Deep in the back of my mind I'm worried what happens after Feige leaves.

I thought Luke Cage/Punisher did an excellent job commenting on society without being SJW.

They both pulled you in, made it real, and slowly made a point.

Unfortunately I expect Big-Kev to pull off both big films and then drop the mic and leave...

02-15-2018, 03:13 PM
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02-17-2018, 06:26 AM	#18
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dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $214644	I don't mind going to the theaters but it is pretty pricey especially if you get concessions. If there was a service that let you watch blockbusters\new releases when they come out at home with a reasonable price then theaters would disappear. And no I am not talking about the movie industry stupid idea of $50\movie or whatever exorbitant price it was.
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02-17-2018, 09:40 AM	#22
DJJasonp My work speaks for itself!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $-1674800	I pretty much agree with most of what Dane is saying except the "not being able to recreate" the movie theater experience at home. I've spent a chunk on 4k, dolby atmos, etc. etc. I would much rather watch a film at home (with no cell phones/cell phone lights....no teenagers chatting, etc. etc). That said - I still go to the theater for movies that I dont want to wait for them to be released for home (or I'm afraid I'll see a spoiler on social media). I think Dane mentioned this in a different thread a while back - going out to a movie, especially with the new theaters with booze, etc. (and throw in food/parking in some places) - it can cost a small fortune. __________________ Its easier to fool a man, than to convince a man he's been fooled.
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