Gladiator 2018 - Round 3, Match 7 - Fire Me Boy! versus Bwana

[Rain Man]

Vote for the person that you think would win this match in a battle to death or submission. As background, assume that prior to the tournament you received 10 minutes of training on every weapon. The time listed is the amount of time before the match where you learn what the weaponry and venue is. All participants are handed their weapons at t=0 unless stated otherwise.

Venue - Floating in the Dead Sea
Starting Distance - 99 feet

Fire Me Boy!

Main Weapon - Pirate cutlass
Backup Weapon - None

Prep Time - 6 Minutes
Special Factors - You just ran 6 miles to get to the fight because your alarm didn't go off

Bwana

Main Weapon - Pirate cutlass
Backup Weapon - Small Ball Peen Hammer

Prep Time - 14 seconds
Special Factors - You're wearing a football helmet and a 40-lb. backpack of bricks that you can't remove

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

That face mask seems fine, although how would I really know if it would work. That article you posted implies it's really hard to stand on the bottom due to the density of the water. This is going to be a potentially awkward fight.

Dead Sea is deep enough you’re not touching bottom, no?

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Dead Sea is deep enough you’re not touching bottom, no?

I was thinking around the shore but the article talked about how people drown because it's so hard to turn yourself perpendicular to the surface of the water. If it's that hard to get yourself vertical it could be quite a show.

[The Franchise]

They both die.

[Rain Man]

Okay, tell me if I'm messing this up. I'm calculating Bwana's buoyancy.

First, we look at the bricks.

The density of the Dead Sea is 1240 kg/m3.
The density of bricks are 1900 kg/m3.

So we know that the bricks are weighing him down, but essentially 2/3 of the weight will be supported by the water.

40 pounds of bricks = 18.2 kg.

If I want to do the math right, 18.2 kg of bricks takes up 0.009569378
m3. The buoyancy of the water will therefore support 0.009569378 m3
*1240 kg/m3, or 11.87 kg. The downward force is of course 18.2 kg, so the bricks are effectively a downward weight of 6.32 kg.

Now we look at Bwana's body. If we assume that he's 190 pounds as an estimate, and we see that the typical human body has a density of 985 kg/m3, then his body will have a volume of 0.087678819 m3. Running the numbers, his body is less dense than the water, so it'll have an upward force (buoyancy) of roughly 22.4 kg.

If my calculations are correct, Bwana will still float easily while wearing 40 pounds of bricks. In fact, he'll be closer to neutral buoyancy, which I think will make him more maneuverable. I've got to go with Bwana on this one.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Okay, tell me if I'm messing this up. I'm calculating Bwana's buoyancy.

First, we look at the bricks.

The density of the Dead Sea is 1240 kg/m3.
The density of bricks are 1900 kg/m3.

So we know that the bricks are weighing him down, but essentially 2/3 of the weight will be supported by the water.

40 pounds of bricks = 18.2 kg.

If I want to do the math right, 18.2 kg of bricks takes up 0.009569378
m3. The buoyancy of the water will therefore support 0.009569378 m3
*1240 kg/m3, or 11.87 kg. The downward force is of course 18.2 kg, so the bricks are effectively a downward weight of 6.32 kg.

Now we look at Bwana's body. If we assume that he's 190 pounds as an estimate, and we see that the typical human body has a density of 985 kg/m3, then his body will have a volume of 0.087678819 m3. Running the numbers, his body is less dense than the water, so it'll have an upward force (buoyancy) of roughly 22.4 kg.

If my calculations are correct, Bwana will still float easily while wearing 40 pounds of bricks. In fact, he'll be closer to neutral buoyancy, which I think will make him more maneuverable. I've got to go with Bwana on this one.

I was just gonna post how dead Bwana is and then this post. I barely know what it means, but I trust Rainman to do math, so... Sorry FMB.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Okay, tell me if I'm messing this up. I'm calculating Bwana's buoyancy.

First, we look at the bricks.

The density of the Dead Sea is 1240 kg/m3.
The density of bricks are 1900 kg/m3.

So we know that the bricks are weighing him down, but essentially 2/3 of the weight will be supported by the water.

40 pounds of bricks = 18.2 kg.

If I want to do the math right, 18.2 kg of bricks takes up 0.009569378
m3. The buoyancy of the water will therefore support 0.009569378 m3
*1240 kg/m3, or 11.87 kg. The downward force is of course 18.2 kg, so the bricks are effectively a downward weight of 6.32 kg.

Now we look at Bwana's body. If we assume that he's 190 pounds as an estimate, and we see that the typical human body has a density of 985 kg/m3, then his body will have a volume of 0.087678819 m3. Running the numbers, his body is less dense than the water, so it'll have an upward force (buoyancy) of roughly 22.4 kg.

If my calculations are correct, Bwana will still float easily while wearing 40 pounds of bricks. In fact, he'll be closer to neutral buoyancy, which I think will make him more maneuverable. I've got to go with Bwana on this one.

As the competition runner, you should refrain from any analysis of the fights. I call shananigans.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

That answer is easy. Do what the mongols and other horse bound armies did when fighting infantry. Retreat. FMB just has to swim the other way. He should be able to outswim Bwana fairly easily and he can just retreat and fight at his leisure.

This is what I'd do. Retreat until Bwana tires and sinks.

[threebag]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Can FMB even swim

Not after a six mile run

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by threebag02

Not after a six mile run

It's the dead sea. I float.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

As the competition runner, you should refrain from any analysis of the fights. I call shananigans.

Sorry about that. My curiosity got the best of me. In an effort to remain neutral, I'll observe that you will be far more buoyant without the bricks.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

It's the dead sea. I float.

After a 6 mile run, you'll float alright. If the 6 mile run doesn't kill you off, Bwana will be waiting for you.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I envision Bwana having a hidden side piece or Bowie knife, so that adds to his advantage.

[MagicHef]

Are they in a location that is deep enough that they can't reach the bottom?

The backpack should rotate Bwana so he is face up, I think he may actually have an easier time keeping his face above the water.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

I envision Bwana having a hidden side piece or Bowie knife, so that adds to his advantage.

Contestants are screened before each match to ensure that they are not bringing in outside weaponry or snacks.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Contestants are screened before each match to ensure that they are not bringing in outside weaponry or snacks.

Interesting theory.