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Old 11-28-2022, 12:58 PM  
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Week 12 WR snap counts

Watson 64 snaps (84%) 2 targets 2 receptions 26 yards - Once again the he's the skill position player with the most snaps and once again he produced as if he played 20 snaps.)

MVS 44 snaps (58%) 5 targets 4 receptions 56 yards - I think this is about the perfect amount of playing time. He had a dropped pass that hit him right in the hands and even though it was a bullet he definitely should have caught it.

Skyy Moore 35 snaps (46%) 6 targets 5 receptions 36 yards - This dude shouldn't be anywhere near a punt return. I thought he should be getting more opportunities on offense than what he is getting. Had a big gain that turned into a 4 yard gain because of a pretty shitty holding call against Watson.

JJSS 29 snaps (38%) 3 targets 3 receptions 38 yards - Limited snaps because of prior concussion. Played as well as you'd expect and will probably be the lead WR again next week.

Powell 2 snaps (3%) Nothing

Another subpar performance from CP's favorite JAG Justin Watson. In the last 3 weeks Watson has played in 167 snaps out of a possible 204 snaps (82%). These are his stats from that time frame.

7 targets 6 receptions 107 yards and 0 TDs

If you take away the reception that took us to halftime against the Chargers then he looks even more like a JAG.

6 targets 5 receptions and 76 yards

Skyy Moore should be getting some of those snaps and in no way is Watson's production acceptable.

I'm ready for you all to tell me I'm an idiot and how I'm being a bitch after we just won. Eventually some of you will see the light.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:23 PM   #16
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:23 PM   #17
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I dunno, from my seat he seems to be open when he gets opportunities. I don't get the hate.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:24 PM   #18
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We should fire Andy Reid and hire this dlphg guy to call plays.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:25 PM   #19
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You know, I kind of want to see Justin Watson's snap count increase next week. Just to see what happens. For science.

Like, will dlphg's head implode or explode? Or will it melt down?
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:26 PM   #20
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Watson gets open, has good hands, and doesn't **** up. It's not that complicated.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:28 PM   #21
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So how many of those snaps for Watson was in the last half of the 4th when we handed the ball off 800 times? Snap % isn't the end all be all.
He only missed 12 snaps all game. Also this is from The Expert of Breaking News Adam Teicher.

Justin Watson played the most among Chiefs WRs in first half with 31 snaps, followed by MVS at 22, JuJu at 15, Moore at 13 and Powell at 2.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:31 PM   #22
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We should fire Andy Reid and hire this dlphg guy to call plays.
Yes that's what I'm saying. Thanks for writing it so eloquently. I couldnt find the words and you were a big help.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:32 PM   #23
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We should fire Andy Reid and hire this dlphg guy to call plays.
Yeah that's exactly what we need. Chris Jones running routes at wr.

I don't see the issue with Watson in there, with Hardman on IR, Toney injured again, and for whatever dumbass reason, someone decided that we're babying Juju after an either or injury. You're either 100% good to go after a concussion, or you aren't, and if you aren't, you don't play football, period.

Stonehand Scantling is just as likely to drop the ball as catch it, Kelce is the go to anyway, and Skyy is a rookie in a Reid system.

Who do we have that's better? Fountain? Powell? You'll see the 3te looks before you see those jags.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:33 PM   #24
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Watson gets open, has good hands, and doesn't **** up. It's not that complicated.
That's why he gets targeted so much huh? Patrick Mahomes must be really dumb then and can't see Watson game after game getting open. Maybe he's Watson-blind and can't see him.
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The stats don't always tell the whole story. We don't get to see behind the scenes in practice. Maybe Watson knows every route in the playbook and runs them perfectly. Maybe Skyy has learned and practiced much less of the route tree. Maybe Skyy is running the wrong routes at times. Maybe Mahomes has told Andy he likes having Watson on the field because he runs the routes exactly how he wants them. There's a dozen reasons Watson could be getting more snaps. I expect Skyy's role to continue to increase as he spends more time in the system.

Dumb thread, once again.
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Doesn't really feel like an issue when Skyy is getting more targets.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:38 PM   #28
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I don't know that everyone is in love with Watson, it's just we know we have the best offensive mind in football and he likes to mix up personnel groups and it's worked for him for 20+ years now.

We have talented WRs and they still go out there and run plays where it's 3 TEs on the field and it's still a pass play. Noah Gray played more snaps than all our WRs except Watson and no one's complaining about that. It's not like Watson has been a liability out there. He's making plays when called upon. Reid obviously likes that he can run block and probably knows the offense as well as any WR. Said this last week but Reid is going to play guys who know the offense and execute it the way he wants. It's not always about pure production.
I think it's this simple. Having a guy who goes out there and runs the proper routes every time when you're down three of your top WRs is valuable.

We know that Skyy was directly responsible for that INT Mahomes threw in San Fran so he probably needs more time to learn the offense.

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So the thread starting post says that Justin Watson had 2 targets and 2 receptions. and then complains about production?

The QB is the one who makes reads and throws and Chiefs have the best QB in this planet's history.

A lot of Watson's routes clear areas for the first and second reads. And he is a good all around player.

You need guys that help the team win.
Well the idea is that he's out there just running sprints. He isn't super effective and they'd rather someone out there who actually does get open more frequently.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:39 PM   #29
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That's why he gets targeted so much huh? Patrick Mahomes must be really dumb then and can't see Watson game after game getting open. Maybe he's Watson-blind and can't see him.
Patrick already stated if it's man, the ball is going to Kelce, and why would it not?

He's also admitted to predetermining where he wants to go pre snap, which has led to some missed td opportunities not just for Watson, but for MVS and Hardman as well.

Watson has made some big plays when the ball comes to him.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:48 PM   #30
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Everyone loves Justin Watson, and hes certainly outperformed expectations but hes also in 3x to 4x as many snaps as Skyy and they've produced about the same.
How about blocking in the run game or for other receivers?
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