Memo: Jackson Cleared of Charge Earlier - Page 2

DenverChief · 03:39 PM

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LOS ANGELES - Child welfare investigators earlier this year found there was no basis for allegations that Michael Jackson (news) had abused the boy now accusing him of molestation, according to a confidential memo.

The memo from an administrator with the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services was based on an investigation last February and was leaked to the Web site thesmokinggun.com, which posted it Tuesday. A source familiar with the document confirmed its authenticity to The Associated Press

The memo was dated Nov. 26, 2003 — a week after the Santa Barbara County district attorney announced child molestation allegations against Jackson

Both the boy and his brother told investigators Jackson had not sexually abused them, according to the memo. Their older sister said she had never witnessed anything sexually inappropriate between her brothers and the entertainer

The memo was sent from a regional administrator to bureau chief Charles Sophy and detailed a probe completed before Sophy joined the agency.

Jackson's defense is certain to seize on the memo.

Santa Barbara County District Attorney Thomas Sneddon did not immediately return a call for comment Tuesday.

The memo, which refers to Jackson as "the entertainer," said the department began a 13-day inquiry after a Los Angeles school district official called its hot line Feb. 14 out of concern for the boy and his brother.

The investigation was conducted with the Los Angeles police. The school official suspected neglect by the boy's mother and sexual abuse by Jackson, according to the memo.

But the department and the police concluded the allegations were "unfounded," the document said. Louise Grasmehr, a spokeswoman for the child welfare department, said the leak would probably be investigated because the memo was supposed to be confidential under state laws designed to protect children.

Police spokeswoman Officer Sandra Escalante had no comment. The school official called the hot line after the child, a cancer patient who had visited Jackson at his Neverland Ranch, appeared in a TV documentary in which the boy told an interviewer he had been a guest for sleepovers at Neverland.

In the documentary, Jackson defended his habit of letting children sleep in his bed as "sweet" and non-sexual. The boy's mother told investigators in February that "she believed the media had taken everything out of context," the memo said.

The mother said that the children were never left alone with Jackson and that her son slept in the same room with Jackson but never shared his bed. She said Jackson would sleep on the floor.

Separately, the mother contacted an attorney around the time the documentary aired, saying she thought her son had been abused. Jackson was booked Nov. 20 on suspicion of child molestation. He has denied the allegations and was released on $3 million bail. Authorities said they expect to file formal charges next week.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=3...ichael_Jackson

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/dcfsmemo2.html

DenverChief · 12-09-2003, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Why?

Does that make it ok to **** your kids?

Why are you being so dense dude, get a grip

Captain Kangaroo inviting you and your children to his 100 acre ranch to go to a private amusement park is not the same as some 20 something guy inviting kids over to his 4th floor apartment on the lower east side of Jefferson city missouri

Brock · 12-09-2003, 05:42 PM

"Rubba-rubba".

**Rausch** · 12-09-2003, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Why are you being so dense dude, get a grip

Captain Kangaroo inviting you and your children to his 100 acre ranch to go to a private amusement park is not the same as some 20 something guy inviting kids over to his 4th floor apartment on the lower east side of Jefferson city missouri

Really?

So it's much more acceptable to send your kids off to stay the night with a freak of nature who's had more plastic surgery than an operation board game, owns the remains to the Elephant man, and has been abused by his father, than say, some chiefs fan you yack at on a bb who owns a camp ground?

Really?

So what you're saying is if I owned, say a camp ground, you'd send you kids off to stay with MJ first?

And as an aside: is there ANYONE you'd let sleep IN THE SAME BED with your kids?

DenverChief · 12-09-2003, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Really?

So it's much more acceptable to send your kids off to stay the night with a freak of nature who's had more plastic surgery than an operation board game, owns the remains to the Elephant man, and has been abused by his father, than say, some chiefs fan you yack at on a bb who owns a camp ground?

Really?

So what you're saying is if I owned, say a camp ground, you'd send you kids off to stay with MJ first?

And as an aside: is there ANYONE you'd let sleep IN THE SAME BED with your kids?

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The mother said that the children were never left alone with Jackson and that her son slept in the same room with Jackson but never shared his bed. She said Jackson would sleep on the floor.

Brock · 12-09-2003, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

In the documentary, Jackson defended his habit of letting children sleep in his bed as "sweet" and non-sexual.

**Rausch** · 12-09-2003, 05:53 PM

Thank you.....

Ecto-I · 12-09-2003, 06:07 PM

Hmm...very good points DC.

**Bwana** · 12-09-2003, 06:20 PM

DanT · 12-09-2003, 06:21 PM

I didn't pay much attention to this story, but I did notice the unprofessional behavior of the Santa Barbara DA, especially the comment quoted below:

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On Wednesday, Sneddon maintained a grin for most of the press conference and even made some jokes, such as when asked if the timing of the charges was connected to Tuesday's release of Jackson's Number Ones hits album. "Like the sheriff and I are really into that kind of music," Sneddon said.

The link for the above quote contains a background story describing the long history between Michael Jackson and the DA:
http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/148...headlines=true

That's a helluva thing, the DA cracking wise, like arresting people is some kind of public entertainment. It's easy to see why those SoCal law enforcers enjoy so little regard in the public at large, despite the attempts of a steady stream of movies and television series like T.J. Hooker (starring priceline.com's William Shatner) trying to give them an air of gravitas and dignity.

**Rausch** · 12-09-2003, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DanT

It's easy to see why those SoCal law enforcers enjoy so little regard in the public at large

You lost me...

How do moronic comments by a DA in any way reflect on Law enforcement?....

DenverChief · 12-09-2003, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

You lost me...

How do moronic comments by a DA in any way reflect on Law enforcement?....

just like moronic comments by the president reflect upon the nation

**Rausch** · 12-09-2003, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

just like moronic comments by the president reflect upon the nation

No, they don't.

Where Clinton puts his pee-pee doesn't have any effect on where I put mine....

Brock · 12-09-2003, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DanT

It's easy to see why those SoCal law enforcers enjoy so little regard in the public at large, despite the attempts of a steady stream of movies and television series like T.J. Hooker (starring priceline.com's William Shatner) trying to give them an air of gravitas and dignity.

I think maybe letting a famous murderer go free might also have something to do with that.

DanT · 12-09-2003, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

You lost me...

How do moronic comments by a DA in any way reflect on Law enforcement?....

The particular comment I quoted begins with "Like the Sheriff and I listen to...". One expects there to be a close relationship between the two major components of law enforcement--the police and the prosecutorial functions. This guy's particular comment reflects that. By the way, it also shows that he's unreluctant to speak for the sheriff's personal preferences in music, which have not a gawddamn thing to do with the case.

In more general terms, though, apart from this particular comment, the law enforcement community in SoCal gives off the impression that a bunch of the folks within it don't take their professional obligations as seriously as they should. That's the impression I've gotten, at least. They have had a string of high profile incidents where they either failed to get what should have been easy convictions or where their own cops were involved in grossly unprofessional behavior (e.g. the Ramparts case).

DenverChief · 12-09-2003, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

No, they don't.

Where Clinton puts his pee-pee doesn't have any effect on where I put mine....

first you were on comments now you are on actions...

12-09-2003, 03:19 PM
DenverChief MVP Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $5409867	DCFS Memo: Jackson Cleared of Charge Earlier 10 minutes ago LOS ANGELES - Child welfare investigators earlier this year found there was no basis for allegations that Michael Jackson (news) had abused the boy now accusing him of molestation, according to a confidential memo. The memo from an administrator with the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services was based on an investigation last February and was leaked to the Web site thesmokinggun.com, which posted it Tuesday. A source familiar with the document confirmed its authenticity to The Associated Press The memo was dated Nov. 26, 2003 — a week after the Santa Barbara County district attorney announced child molestation allegations against Jackson Both the boy and his brother told investigators Jackson had not sexually abused them, according to the memo. Their older sister said she had never witnessed anything sexually inappropriate between her brothers and the entertainer The memo was sent from a regional administrator to bureau chief Charles Sophy and detailed a probe completed before Sophy joined the agency. Jackson's defense is certain to seize on the memo. Santa Barbara County District Attorney Thomas Sneddon did not immediately return a call for comment Tuesday. The memo, which refers to Jackson as "the entertainer," said the department began a 13-day inquiry after a Los Angeles school district official called its hot line Feb. 14 out of concern for the boy and his brother. The investigation was conducted with the Los Angeles police. The school official suspected neglect by the boy's mother and sexual abuse by Jackson, according to the memo. But the department and the police concluded the allegations were "unfounded," the document said. Louise Grasmehr, a spokeswoman for the child welfare department, said the leak would probably be investigated because the memo was supposed to be confidential under state laws designed to protect children. Police spokeswoman Officer Sandra Escalante had no comment. The school official called the hot line after the child, a cancer patient who had visited Jackson at his Neverland Ranch, appeared in a TV documentary in which the boy told an interviewer he had been a guest for sleepovers at Neverland. In the documentary, Jackson defended his habit of letting children sleep in his bed as "sweet" and non-sexual. The boy's mother told investigators in February that "she believed the media had taken everything out of context," the memo said. The mother said that the children were never left alone with Jackson and that her son slept in the same room with Jackson but never shared his bed. She said Jackson would sleep on the floor. Separately, the mother contacted an attorney around the time the documentary aired, saying she thought her son had been abused. Jackson was booked Nov. 20 on suspicion of child molestation. He has denied the allegations and was released on $3 million bail. Authorities said they expect to file formal charges next week. http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=3...ichael_Jackson http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/dcfsmemo2.html Last edited by DenverChief; 12-09-2003 at 03:39 PM..
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