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Mr_Tomahawk · 02:41 PM

Might as well get this started since we are within a week of it beginning.

OTA offseason workouts: May 27-29, June 3-5, June 10-13
Mandatory minicamp: June 17-19

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Dayze · 06-02-2014, 12:50 PM

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Not saying I like having him around as a backup. I think the whole San Diego game was an ultimate example of what happens when a coaching staff doesn't have adequate scouting to create a gameplan as well as motivate players not to slack off against backups.

KC should've lost that game by a huge margin, but whatever leaders the Chargers have failed big time and let their underlings sleep walk into the stadium.

yeah, my comment was more a random though by me rather than a bash etc.

-King- · 06-02-2014, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

This.

Dump Daniel. If Smith goes down....we're ****ed no matter who they put in there. Might as well get Bray and Murray the reps and save on some cap space.

The SD game begs to differ. If Smith is out for a game or two, do you really trust Bray or Murray to put up enough points to give us a fighting chance? At this point, there's no reason to believe so. Daniel has shown that he knows the offense (something Bray is apparently struggling with) and can put up points even with backups around him. I trust him way more than the other two for a game or two.

Mr_Tomahawk · 06-02-2014, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

The SD game begs to differ. If Smith is out for a game or two, do you really trust Bray or Murray to put up enough points to give us a fighting chance? At this point, there's no reason to believe so. Daniel has shown that he knows the offense (something Bray is apparently struggling with) and can put up points even with backups around him. I trust him way more than the other two for a game or two.

First, Matt Cassel once had back-to-back 400 yard games in NE. Matt Flynn went into NE and won. AS someone else pointed out, SD had no film to go off when scouting the offense they were about to play. So I am not going to read too much into the SD game.

Second, that report of Bray having trouble grasping the offense is a load of shit. He was the only guy who was reporting this...and what was he basing this off of? ...OTA's hadnt even ****ing started yet when he wrote that piece of shit. Bray has looked as good as Daniel, if not better according to local media reports.

**RealSNR** · 06-02-2014, 01:23 PM

Tyler Palko almost beat the Steelers.

Crown his ass

-King- · 06-02-2014, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Yeah.

It's really not a hard decision. Cutting Murray and trying to practice squad him would be insanely idiotic and dumb. Bray's apparently doing fine, but there are questions about his ability to be the primary backup. Daniel is just... worthless. Overpaid, inexperienced, and honestly can't be that much better of an option if Alex goes down.

Coaches will always go "safe", even if safe isn't smart.

Are people just blocking out the SD game or something? How is Daniel worthless? He had 300 combined yards that game. He turned chicken shit into chicken salad. And apparently Bray has issues with the pro-style offense so how is he doing fine?

And for a backup QB, I'll go with the safe option if the alternative is an undrafted QB who has issues with accuracy, decision making, and leadership. If Bray becomes a career backup like Daniel, it would be considered a success. I think people overlook that.

-King- · 06-02-2014, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Tyler Palko almost beat the Steelers.

Crown his ass

Tyler Palko had 150 yards and 3 INTs that game. So... what exactly are you getting at?

Mr_Tomahawk · 06-02-2014, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Are people just blocking out the SD game or something? How is Daniel worthless? He had 300 combined yards that game. He turned chicken shit into chicken salad. And apparently Bray has issues with the pro-style offense so how is he doing fine?

And for a backup QB, I'll go with the safe option if the alternative is an undrafted QB who has issues with accuracy, decision making, and leadership. If Bray becomes a career backup like Daniel, it would be considered a success. I think people overlook that.

:True Fan gif:

Mr_Tomahawk · 06-02-2014, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Tyler Palko had 150 yards and 3 INTs that game. So... what exactly are you getting at?

$3,500,000.00

-King- · 06-02-2014, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

First, Matt Cassel once had back-to-back 400 yard games in NE. Matt Flynn went into NE and won. AS someone else pointed out, SD had no film to go off when scouting the offense they were about to play. So I am not going to read too much into the SD game.

Cassel played with the 2nd greatest WR ever. The best slot WR ever. The best coach ever. Flynn played with all the GB starters.

Meanwhile in the SD game, the only regular starter Daniel had was Stephenson. Other than that, he played with all backups. I can't dismiss that. And if the scouting report thing is true then every backup would have success when they're forced to start because opposing teams don't have game film. That's just a terrible excuse.

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Second, that report of Bray having trouble grasping the offense is a load of shit. He was the only guy who was reporting this...and what was he basing this off of? ...OTA's hadnt even ****ing started yet when he wrote that piece of shit. Bray has looked as good as Daniel, if not better according to local media reports.

He was basing it off last season. Bray had trouble picking up the system last year.

Discuss Thrower · 06-02-2014, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Are people just blocking out the SD game or something? How is Daniel worthless? He had 300 combined yards that game. He turned chicken shit into chicken salad. And apparently Bray has issues with the pro-style offense so how is he doing fine?

And for a backup QB, I'll go with the safe option if the alternative is an undrafted QB who has issues with accuracy, decision making, and leadership. If Bray becomes a career backup like Daniel, it would be considered a success. I think people overlook that.

The SD defense had no idea what Chase was going to do and the players didn't rise up thinking they could roll through a bunch of backups.

That game was a testament to the coaching staff ****ing up more than anything.

-King- · 06-02-2014, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

:True Fan gif:

Yes because when you're looking for a backup QBs, a risky guy who has a history of poor decision making and inconsistent accuracy is the perfect player to have.

Mr_Tomahawk · 06-02-2014, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Cassel played with the 2nd greatest WR ever. The best slot WR ever. The best coach ever. Flynn played with all the GB starters.

Meanwhile in the SD game, the only regular starter Daniel had was Stephenson. Other than that, he played with all backups. I can't dismiss that. And if the scouting report thing is true then every backup would have success when they're forced to start because opposing teams don't have game film. That's just a terrible excuse.

He was basing it off last season. Bray had trouble picking up the system last year.

Last season....

Well good thing he is looking every bit as good as Daniel, at a much cheaper rate....according to reports.

Mr_Tomahawk · 06-02-2014, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Yes because when you're looking for a backup QBs, a risky guy who has a history of poor decision making and inconsistent accuracy is the perfect player to have.

Again.

You need to update yourself with camp reports.

"It's amazing what a year in the system has done for him..." -TJ Carpetner

-King- · 06-02-2014, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Last season....

Well good thing he is looking every bit as good as Daniel, at a much cheaper rate....according to reports.

According to OTA reports? Are you really basing all this on OTAs when pretty much every report is great on every player? From those same reports Dressler sounds great, but we know he'll likely be cut after training camp. Meanwhile Sean Payton and Andy Reid have chosen Daniel as their backup QBs for 6 years now. I think I'll trust their judgment on this.

-King- · 06-02-2014, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Again.

You need to update yourself with camp reports.

"It's amazing what a year in the system has done for him..." -TJ Carpetner

Demetrius Harris is the next Jimmy Graham then if we're going off camp reports.

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