Chiefs Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick - Page 20

houstonwhodat · 05:02 AM

According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft.

April 15th:

"The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick."

"It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February."

"No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of."

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down

Saccopoo · 04-15-2013, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Bullshit.

No it's not.

23 teams didn't think that Rogers was worth a first round pick. And I guarantee you that all 23 of those teams would give their left nut to have him now.

If you are suggesting that there is a reason why we aren't getting offers of multiple first rounders for Geno, it's because teams don't think that he's worth that much. Same as Rogers not being worth a first rounder to those 23 teams.

I don't see how you can say "bullshit" to that.

O.city · 04-15-2013, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Call me crazy, but I'm not overly excited about drafting a guy in the top ten who quit on his team during a game.

Easy.

You're crazy.

I think Richardson ends up being the best defensive player from this draft. Someone mark this post. I think he has Aldon Smith potential effect on a game, from a different position of course.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-15-2013, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I'm willing to give our DC a shot. I love it that he wants to attack.

That article in the star was very promising. I want us to have blitzes and DL pushing upfield instead of rarely blitzing and using that "read and react" bullshit that Romeo used and it seems like we're going to do just that.

getting excited over Star articles. Idiot.
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B14ckmon · 04-15-2013, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

In most cases yes. I saw a lot of screen passes that were taken for a ton of YAC and the numbers are proving it.

You saw a lot of screen basses...to Bailey? I rarely ever saw screen passes to Bailey.

patteeu · 04-15-2013, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, no shit.

We've sat thru 30 years of that mantra though. You also don't trade for a back up Qb just to do it.

Has anyone ever presented that argument? I can't remember ever seeing it. I *have* seen plenty of people insisting that it's the right thing to do to reach for a relatively unheralded QB in the draft to "try" to strike gold though.

O.city · 04-15-2013, 09:22 PM

Give me Sheldon Richardson and Paul Kruger in this draft, along with a new ILB and we could have something in the making on defense.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-15-2013, 09:23 PM

jokel, jordan, and fisher. Your "BPA's". Idiot.
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RunKC · 04-15-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Give me Sheldon Richardson and Paul Kruger in this draft, along with a new ILB and we could have something in the making on defense.

I'm with you. That would be awesome.

O.city · 04-15-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Has anyone ever presented that argument? I can't remember ever seeing it. I *have* seen plenty of people insisting that it's the right thing to do to reach for a relatively unheralded QB in the draft to "try" to strike gold though.

I don't know. I wasn't around much there for a bit.

It's probably about as bad as trading for a QB who has questionable upside and an injury history.

**RealSNR** · 04-15-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Has anyone ever presented that argument? I can't remember ever seeing it. I *have* seen plenty of people insisting that it's the right thing to do to reach for a relatively unheralded QB in the draft to "try" to strike gold though.

Back up QBs traded to new teams who played in the Super Bowl with that team:

Matt Hasselbeck
Brett Favre

There's your argument.

patteeu · 04-15-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

And I'm saying it doesn't really matter what's in Irelands head, he's a moron and a shit GM.

Why do you think I care about what you think of Ireland?

Saccopoo · 04-15-2013, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Give me Sheldon Richardson and Paul Kruger in this draft, along with a new ILB and we could have something in the making on defense.

Joe Kruger.

I think he's got a real future in an attacking 34 like Sutton is going to run.

Dude has a high motor, high athleticism, good instincts, plays nasty and strong.

I'd love to see him on this team.

O.city · 04-15-2013, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Why do you think I care about what you think of Ireland?

Guess I don't. Obviously you don't hold me in very high esteem so I guess it doesn't really matter.

DTLB58 · 04-15-2013, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Why aren't QB needy teams scraping and crawling up to #1 overall, especially after the Chiefs have let it be known they're willing to move out?

Dorsey said it, was it right before or after the combine? There isn't a consensus choice by everyone through out the league who is the best QB in this draft.

The only place where there is a majority is CP.

O.city · 04-15-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

Dorsey said it, was it right before or after the combine? There isn't a consensus choice by everyone through out the league who is the best QB in this draft.

The only place where there is a majority is CP.

Yeah, really wish he wouldn't have said that right about now.

04-15-2013, 12:03 PM
houstonwhodat Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Parallel Universe Casino cash: $10004900	Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft. April 15th: "The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick." "It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February." "No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of." http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down Last edited by houstonwhodat; 04-16-2013 at 05:02 AM..
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