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Old 09-09-2014, 11:02 AM  
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Put Dorsey's Head On The Chopping Block

It is very, very early in John Dorsey's tenure here, but unless the talent he's acquired magically turns it around by midpoint of the season, I believe we should be shopping for a new GM by the end of the season.

Now, this is a big deal (I would like to think), coming from me. I was among the last defenders on this site of Scott Pioli, and I still think his drafting record here was strong. I believe in the process, in giving GMs extreme leeway and time in shuffling the roster and building a team full of the kind of guys we want.

But Dorsey came in with a plum opportunity. He had the core of a team already built for him (minus the one critical position), the #1 pick in the draft, and a ridiculous amount of free agency cap room to spend, spend, spend.

With these incredible gifts given to him, gifts that any new GM would kill for (rather than the shit sandwich a new GM would get in 2015...), Dorsey took the absolute worst path.

He sacrificed the future of the franchise for a quick playoff run, completely overpaying in offseason talent, hamstringing our budget for 2014 and 2015 so that we let a full quarter of our team's starters walk, including two Pro Bowlers, with zero ability to replace any of the departing talent effectively (with the sole exception of replacing Kendrick Lewis with Husain Abdullah, but even that was a Plan B after Mr. Glass Commings is out for another year).

We were unable to retain Brandon Albert, Brandon Flowers, Ryan Succop, Tyson Jackson, Dexter McCulster, Jon Asamoah and Geoff Schwartz because we had to have Mike DeVito, Chase Daniel, Dunta Robinson, Sean Smith, Donnie Avery, and Anthony Fasano. That is a complete loss on every level, and again, it happened because Dorsey acted like a teenager after receiving his first paycheck rather than the patient, methodical personnel guru he was alleged to be.

The Alex Smith trade was defensible on its own terms, I believe. (We overpayed with the two 2nds, but we overpayed for Bowe and Colquitt, and both of those were defensible as well, as the team was seriously ****ed without the player in question.) But coupled with the Chase Daniel acquisition and this team's continued chickenshit behavior regarding the QB position in the draft, and it once again showed a complete lack of understanding of what it takes to win in a league being skewed further and further away from the Alex Smiths and Matt Cassels of the world. In a league that's continually changing, Dorsey, Reid and Alex Smith are keeping the team stagnant.

Well, less than stagnant, really. The biggest crime of the young John Dorsey era has been the drafting, which has been horrific. It's every bit as obsessed with 40 times and measurables and ignorant of on field performance as the Al Davis regime used to be. We burned the #1 overall pick on a likely bust at tackle. We burned our first this year on a passrusher that isn't helping us win. We burned our third this year on a corner that was worse than Vince Agnew this preseason. And none of our low-round picks are working out, up to and including our UDFAs, where GMs need to distinguish themselves. It's insane to think that Scott Pioli had a better record with UDFAs, which is saying something considering that Pioli only hit on one his entire time here.

I do a ton of mock drafts throughout the year, most of them terrible, but all of them viscerally enjoyable for me to postulate. It's lost a lot of its luster this year, even as we are entering a year with 11 draft picks, because projecting the projects and boom/likely-bust players that Dorsey falls in love with makes the exercise depressing. We end up with a super-young team full of talent that can't see the field, and likely rarely ever will.

I'm willing to change my tune, as I always am, if some of this plan looks to be solid for the future, and not just for the present, by the middle of the season. But it would have to be a dramatic shift for me to feel that way.

That said, we can still end up in a good position here. The Alex Smith contract, which ironically is the best contract Dorsey has signed here, makes Smith expendable if a new GM is brought in at the end of the year. If Andy Reid still wants Alex Smith after a 4-12 season, fire him too. If Andy Reid can't get along with the new GM, fire him. If Andy Reid can't call a winning gameplan in 2015, fire him.

This front office refused to utilize their patience when constructing this roster. In the process, they've lost mine.
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:22 AM   #286
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Are we ready to admit Dorsey knows what he's doing?

A Smith, Fisher, Kelce and Davis. That's a pretty good draft
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:34 AM   #287
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Developments have been very promising, and I've been very encouraged.

With all of the free agent losses this offseason, along with big projects in Fisher, Davis, Ford, and Gaines, Dorsey had taken some profound risks, and SO FAR, it seems like he's successfully walked the tight rope.

He's got another critical offseason coming up, assuming he survives that long, by ostensibly losing Hali and DJ. If he loses them, as it seems he will, you've just lost the heart of your defense. How will he find a way to patch that up?

He's seemingly successfully replaced Albert, McCluster, TJax, and to a lesser extent, Flowers. Asamoah and Schwartz continue to be big gaps. Now he's going to have to replace the heart of the defense. Is Ford up to it? Where's DJ's replacement going to come from?

I've been very pleased with this season so far, and it's finally looking like the Titans game was a horrendous outlier. I hope the next couple months bear that out.
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:41 AM   #288
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:43 AM   #289
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Developments have been very promising, and I've been very encouraged.

With all of the free agent losses this offseason, along with big projects in Fisher, Davis, Ford, and Gaines, Dorsey had taken some profound risks, and SO FAR, it seems like he's successfully walked the tight rope.

He's got another critical offseason coming up, assuming he survives that long, by ostensibly losing Hali and DJ. If he loses them, as it seems he will, you've just lost the heart of your defense. How will he find a way to patch that up?

He's seemingly successfully replaced Albert, McCluster, TJax, and to a lesser extent, Flowers. Asamoah and Schwartz continue to be big gaps. Now he's going to have to replace the heart of the defense. Is Ford up to it? Where's DJ's replacement going to come from?

I've been very pleased with this season so far, and it's finally looking like the Titans game was a horrendous outlier. I hope the next couple months bear that out.
And yet, the Chiefs are two premier starters down and STILL benched Tom Brady.
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:45 AM   #290
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Cooper was part of the effort in limiting Edelman and Gronk COMBINED to 54 yards.

That's why I think we've successfully replaced Flowers. So far, Chris Owens has performed decently in the slot, and Ron Parker is adequate so long as you don't have to lean on him to start.
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And yet, the Chiefs are two premier starters down and STILL benched Tom Brady.
Keep in mind I haven't watched the game yet, but it's my belief that we benched him DESPITE DJ's backup playing poorly. Not because of.

JMJ, DJ's replacement, didn't register a single tackle.

That can't fly. The guy's an ILB. The Chiefs will need an heir to DJ.

Edit: Mauga, Mays' replacement, looks to have played very well.
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Keep in mind I haven't watched the game yet, but it's my belief that we benched him DESPITE DJ's backup playing poorly. Not because of.

JMJ, DJ's replacement, didn't register a single tackle.

That can't fly. The guy's an ILB. The Chiefs will need an heir to DJ.
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Cooper was part of the effort in limiting Edelman and Gronk COMBINED to 54 yards.

That's why I think we've successfully replaced Flowers. So far, Chris Owens has performed decently in the slot, and Ron Parker is adequate so long as you don't have to lean on him to start.
Cooper got roasted again for a long gain on a catch and run for 6. I don't think he's part of the solution.
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Cooper got roasted again for a long gain on a catch and run for 6. I don't think he's part of the solution.
They'll probably hold him up through year three then make a decision.
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Keep in mind I haven't watched the game yet, but it's my belief that we benched him DESPITE DJ's backup playing poorly. Not because of.

JMJ, DJ's replacement, didn't register a single tackle.

That can't fly. The guy's an ILB. The Chiefs will need an heir to DJ.
It's not generally a good idea to form opinions about games BEFORE you watch them, but at least you're consistent, since you declared that Dorsey might need to be fired before a single down was played this season.

That's what's hilarious about so many of the posters on this site. Alex Smith was declared a bust before he ever played a down for the Chiefs. People were posting about how much they wanted Geno's chocolate penis long before Geno Smith ever played a down in the NFL (which, frankly, is disturbing for many reasons), and people declared Reid and Dorsey a failure BEFORE the team they built ever played a game. They turned a 2-14 team into an 11-5 team in their very first season, and yet you create a thread like this before season #2 even begins.

It's hilarious. It's also pretty goddamn ridiculous.

Hey, I get it: the Chiefs are your passion, and you can't help overanalyzing, micromanaging, and panicking. But until Reid and Dorsey actually give you a reason to doubt them, you might want to stop and think before you call for either of their heads on a chopping block. It just makes you look impulsive and foolish.
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They'll probably hold him up through year three then make a decision.
He's played well enough to be tendered in year 4.
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Cooper got roasted again for a long gain on a catch and run for 6. I don't think he's part of the solution.
Perhaps not, but he's not the dramatic dropoff in talent that I was fearing.

Besides, when Sean Smith is on, he's a #1 CB. His problem, as always, is that he's not always on.
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It's not generally a good idea to form opinions about games BEFORE you watch them, but at least you're consistent, since you declared that Dorsey might need to be fired before a single down was played this season.

That's what's hilarious about so many of the posters on this site. Alex Smith was declared a bust before he ever played a down for the Chiefs. People were posting about how much they wanted Geno's chocolate penis long before Geno Smith ever played a down in the NFL (which, frankly, is disturbing for many reasons), and people declared Reid and Dorsey a failure BEFORE the team they built ever played a game. They turned a 2-14 team into an 11-5 team in their very first season, and yet you create a thread like this before season #2 even begins.

It's hilarious. It's also pretty goddamn ridiculous.

Hey, I get it: the Chiefs are your passion, and you can't help overanalyzing, micromanaging, and panicking. But until Reid and Dorsey actually give you a reason to doubt them, you might want to stop and think before you call for either of their heads on a chopping block. It just makes you look impulsive and foolish.
Well, a couple things about this.

First of all, the thread was started after the Titans abomination.

Second of all, you may dislike my pre-formed opinion on JMJ's performance on this game, but you didn't disagree with it.

Third of all, my opinion on Smith has been consistent from day one: that he's a dramatically better game manager than Matt Cassel, but that's all he is. That assessment changed after the playoff loss, where Smith looked like a Super Bowl QB. He's looked like that same player for the last three games, and I've praised him accordingly. Nobody has been more transparent about their feelings towards Alex Smith than I am. You're picking on the wrong target.

Fourth, my OP called for Dorsey's head if this ship couldn't turn around by halfway through the season. Re-read it again if you must.

Fifth, Dorsey has definitely done something to deserve skepticism: he selected Eric Fisher #1 overall. Unless Fisher turns into a reliable, Pro Bowl talent, he's going to deserve shit tons of second guessing by skeptical fans. Period.
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Cooper got roasted again for a long gain on a catch and run for 6. I don't think he's part of the solution.
With your record you probably shouldn't be thinking.
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