Other Sports **2015 Official NBA Playoffs Thread** - Page 204

**dirk digler** · 06:18 PM

Updated: 5-28

Schedule

NBA Finals: Golden State vs Cleveland Cavaliers

Game 1: Thursday, June 4, Cleveland at Golden State, 9 p.m., ABC
Game 2: Sunday, June 7, Cleveland at Golden State, 8 p.m., ABC
Game 3: Tuesday, June 9, Golden State at Cleveland, 9 p.m., ABC
Game 4: Thursday, June 11, Golden State at Cleveland, 9 p.m., ABC
Game 5*: Sunday, June 14, Cleveland at Golden State, 8 p.m., ABC
Game 6*: Tuesday, June 16, Golden State at Cleveland, 9 p.m., ABC
Game 7*: Friday June 19, Cleveland at Golden State, 9 p.m., ABC

Hammock Parties · 06-04-2015, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yes, I grant Peyton is much better than he's perceived in the playoffs. Put him on NE for all those years and they probably win just as many SBs if not more than Brady did.

If you put LeBron on the Spurs they probably win just as many Finals if not more!

tk13 · 06-04-2015, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

He played a tremendous Super Bowl against a great Bears defense .... regardless of how many times I have to point that out. It happened. What a ridiculous ****ing thing, by the way. His postseason QBR is quite a bit better than Brady's, too, by the way.

...and aren't you the guy who argues that even great QBs only win with great defenses...You have that argument every day

And then you drop this bullshit to try to troll. Which way is it for you?

I'm just messing with you. But he did have 3 TD and 7 INT during that playoff run. It's funny how sports work. It wasn't like he was a disaster but I don't think that was his best playoff effort.

Hootie · 06-04-2015, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yes, I grant Peyton is much better than he's perceived in the playoffs. Put him on NE for all those years and they probably win just as many SBs if not more than Brady did.

And that's always been my point.

Put LeBron on GS this series and Curry on Cleveland and what happens? How many games would the two have to play before Cleveland won A game? 25?

KC_Connection · 06-04-2015, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

If you put LeBron on the Spurs they probably win just as many Finals if not more!

Put LeBron on Jordan's Bulls in his place and he has over 6 titles too. We could do this all day.

KC_Connection · 06-04-2015, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Put LeBron on GS this series and Curry on Cleveland and what happens? How many games would the two have to play before Cleveland won A game? 25?

Probably would be the most one-sided NBA Finals ever if that was the case. Of course, Curry likely would have never made it this far with that group of Cavs around him.

Hootie · 06-04-2015, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I'm just messing with you. But he did have 3 TD and 7 INT during that playoff run. It's funny how sports work. It wasn't like he was a disaster but I don't think that was his best playoff effort.

I understand. He was bad in the WC and the divisional ... But his postseason QBR that year was still 65 or so which is borderline elite by QBR standards

chiefzilla1501 · 06-04-2015, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Seems LeBron did/has if you believe the stats.

In a close game with 5 minutes to go, I'm taking Jordan. Every. Single. Time.

I've acknowledged that LeBron has carried several limping teams to the finals. But nobody did or ever will close a game like Jordan did.

KC_Connection · 06-04-2015, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

In a close game with 5 minutes to go, I'm taking Jordan. Every. Single. Time.

Well as long as you know that you're ignoring the stats to make that call.

Hootie · 06-04-2015, 10:46 PM

That's the point, though. Number of titles in any sport is ****ing meaningless to me. Tom Brady was dealt ace/joker. Manning dealt 7/8.

Kobe dealt AA. LeBron dealt 27.

There is only so much you can so with the hand you are dealt. Granted, LeBron tried to buy a joker with the decision but that team was a paper team

KC_Connection · 06-04-2015, 10:48 PM

Anyway, LeBron should really be appreciated before he declines/becomes physically diminished. Just an amazing athlete. Regardless of the outcome, it was great to see that he still can produce that kind of ridiculous level on the biggest stage against one of the better teams (statistically) of all time. Just too bad about the rest of his teammates for the sake of this series being competitive.

-King- · 06-04-2015, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

To be fair, most of the time he chokes before they get to New England so it's rarely a problem.

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L.A. Chieffan · 06-04-2015, 10:53 PM

Dwayne Wade Chris Bosh is a 2/7? You're a joke.

KC_Connection · 06-04-2015, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

That's the point, though. Number of titles in any sport is ****ing meaningless to me. Tom Brady was dealt ace/joker. Manning dealt 7/8.

Kobe dealt AA. LeBron dealt 27.

There is only so much you can so with the hand you are dealt. Granted, LeBron tried to buy a joker with the decision but that team was a paper team

Having a high level Wade still was at least a help in his first championship against OKC. Wade's knees were already shot by the 2nd one, though, and Bosh was Bosh (and yet he still found a way to get them through against the Pacers and Spurs).

chiefzilla1501 · 06-04-2015, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Well as long as you know that you're ignoring the stats to make that call.

And as long as you're ignoring the tape. LeBron is an elite playoff player and a very good closer. There is not a single player who closed games the way Jordan did. This playoff series might be one of LBJ's most brilliant, but it's also been riddled with turnovers and poor shot selection late in games.

Chiefs Pantalones · 06-04-2015, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

In a close game with 5 minutes to go, I'm taking Jordan. Every. Single. Time.

I've acknowledged that LeBron has carried several limping teams to the finals. But nobody did or ever will close a game like Jordan did.

I don't know anyone that disagrees with this. The only people that don't were born in like 1996. MJ is the GOAT. I wish everyone that's a sports fan got to see him. Such a joy.

But anyway, both are great, but different players though. I've always thought LeBron compares better as a player to Magic than MJ. For instance, people get mad at LeBron for passing the ball in the final seconds, etc, but that's who he is more than the other. When LeBron is off is when he tries to do too much. When he plays within himself, facilitating, then he scores easier and his teammates feed off of that and he makes them better. Again, people born in like 1996 compare him to MJ because they unfortunately didn't get to see Magic play either. Victim of time.

Bottomline, people just need to appreciate these great players for what they are.

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