Chiefs Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick - Page 21

houstonwhodat · 05:02 AM

According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft.

April 15th:

"The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick."

"It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February."

"No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of."

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down

RunKC · 04-15-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

Dorsey said it, was it right before or after the combine? There isn't a consensus choice by everyone through out the league who is the best QB in this draft.

The only place where there is a majority is CP.

Absolutely right.

mcaj22 · 04-15-2013, 09:29 PM

the teams that filled voids with crappy veteran QBs, (Bills, Oakland, Arizona) all desperately need and are in the starting LT race, maybe not Oakland since they have the hulk, who might be too big/slow for LT, and more suited as a huge RT, but can play there, but Arizona has to protect their immobile veteran QB with a new LT and Buffalo needs help at o-line everywhere

our biggest selling point to the market to dangle the #1 seed is saying to teams they have their pick of Joeckel or Fisher, but I think teams are going to hold us hostage, force us to pick and if the Chiefs dont pick either, than both of them are sitting at #2 or #3 and that makes it more attractive for a team to pick.

So we kind of have to threaten the market that we will take Joeckel or Fisher, in fear that only one of them will be left at 2 or 3.

O.city · 04-15-2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Joe Kruger.

I think he's got a real future in an attacking 34 like Sutton is going to run.

Dude has a high motor, high athleticism, good instincts, plays nasty and strong.

I'd love to see him on this team.

Yeah, my fault.

I think he could bulk up and play the 5 tech, with Richardson at the 3, and Poe at NT.

Jackson, Devito, Kruger, Poe, Powe, Richardson, and Richard Seymour would be a great rotation.

**BossChief** · 04-15-2013, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

If Geno is Luck why does nobody want the #1 Pick?

Luck had a history of a pro style offense with pro style coaching, showed on tape that he was a consistently good runner of the ball when his receivers were covered and understood the game/pro concepts better than nearly any qb of recent memory.

Geno comes from a gimmick air raid offense that didn't utilize under center formations much, he refused to fully utilize his physical skill set to it's utmost potential by not running with the ball enough to take advantage of defenses keying on the short passing game and had a couple bad games against ranked opponents coughpeytonmanningcough.

Let me ask you this...

If Geno Smith went to Stanford...how much different would his perception be as a prospect?

When Geno went to WV, they ran a pro style offense and he EXCELLED at it...through no fault of his, they moved to an air raid pistol and spread formations and he destroyed worlds with it.

If he would have been able to stay in a pro style offense his whole college career, who knows what happens.

O.city · 04-15-2013, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Luck had a history of a pro style offense with pro style coaching, showed on tape that he was a consistently good runner of the ball when his receivers were covered and understood the game/pro concepts better than nearly any qb of recent memory.

Geno comes from a gimmick air raid offense that didn't utilize under center formations much, he refused to fully utilize his physical skill set to it's utmost potential by not running with the ball enough to take advantage of defenses keying on the short passing game and had a couple bad games against ranked opponents coughpeytonmanningcough.

Let me ask you this...

If Geno Smith went to Stanford...how much different would his perception be as a prospect?

When Geno went to WV, they ran a pro style offense and he EXCELLED at it...through no fault of his, they moved to an air raid pistol and spread formations and he destroyed worlds with it.

If he would have been able to stay in a pro style offense his whole college career, who knows what happens.

Or if he just would have played well in big games maybe things would be different.

mcaj22 · 04-15-2013, 09:32 PM

where are we getting Richard Seymour and with what money

is he going to play for free? did i miss something

O.city · 04-15-2013, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

where are we getting Richard Seymour and with what money

is he going to play for free? did i miss something

I dont' know where the money is coming from for these LB's we just signed, so **** it, he'll come on the cheap.

penbrook · 04-15-2013, 09:33 PM

Dorsey has said he hasnt ruled out Geno. The only person they met with for a TWO DAY visit was Geno.

He compared Geno to the Rodgers situation. The way I see it is that Clark and Dorsey have a hard on for Geno while Reid has a hard on for Alex Smith and a bag of Cheetos.

keg in kc · 04-15-2013, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Or if he just would have played well in big games maybe things would be different.

He was awful in the Orange Bowl.

O.city · 04-15-2013, 09:34 PM

Your and idiot.

mcaj22 · 04-15-2013, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I dont' know where the money is coming from for these LB's we just signed, so **** it, he'll come on the cheap.

these crappy LBers come cheap, like NFL bare minimum barely make the final 53 man roster cheap. Richard Seymour will cost millions even for 1 year.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-15-2013, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

No it's not.

23 teams didn't think that Rogers was worth a first round pick. And I guarantee you that all 23 of those teams would give their left nut to have him now.

If you are suggesting that there is a reason why we aren't getting offers of multiple first rounders for Geno, it's because teams don't think that he's worth that much. Same as Rogers not being worth a first rounder to those 23 teams.

I don't see how you can say "bullshit" to that.

I can say "Bullshit" because they're completely different players with completely different circumstances.

JFC.

O.city · 04-15-2013, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

He was awful in the Orange Bowl.

Sure. He was great in that game.

When the pressure was on and he was the Heisman shoe in, things went downhill. It is what it is.

penbrook · 04-15-2013, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I dont' know where the money is coming from for these LB's we just signed, so **** it, he'll come on the cheap.

True. Seems like Dorsey keeps signing players and he gets this money where. Who knows whats next Charles Woodson and Bart Scott.

B14ckmon · 04-15-2013, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

Dorsey has said he hasnt ruled out Geno. The only person they met with for a TWO DAY visit was Geno.

He compared Geno to the Rodgers situation. The way I see it is that Clark and Dorsey have a hard on for Geno while Reid has a hard on for Alex Smith and a bag of Cheetos.

Why are you so reeruned. Serious question.

04-15-2013, 12:03 PM
houstonwhodat Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Parallel Universe Casino cash: $10004900	Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft. April 15th: "The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick." "It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February." "No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of." http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down Last edited by houstonwhodat; 04-16-2013 at 05:02 AM..
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	the teams that filled voids with crappy veteran QBs, (Bills, Oakland, Arizona) all desperately need and are in the starting LT race, maybe not Oakland since they have the hulk, who might be too big/slow for LT, and more suited as a huge RT, but can play there, but Arizona has to protect their immobile veteran QB with a new LT and Buffalo needs help at o-line everywhere our biggest selling point to the market to dangle the #1 seed is saying to teams they have their pick of Joeckel or Fisher, but I think teams are going to hold us hostage, force us to pick and if the Chiefs dont pick either, than both of them are sitting at #2 or #3 and that makes it more attractive for a team to pick. So we kind of have to threaten the market that we will take Joeckel or Fisher, in fear that only one of them will be left at 2 or 3.
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penbrook LEGEND! Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $10033840	Dorsey has said he hasnt ruled out Geno. The only person they met with for a TWO DAY visit was Geno. He compared Geno to the Rodgers situation. The way I see it is that Clark and Dorsey have a hard on for Geno while Reid has a hard on for Alex Smith and a bag of Cheetos.
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