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****Official Royals @ Rays Game Thread 6/13****

Started my first game thread of the season in yesterday's win, so lets make it 2 days in a row.

Santana (4-5, 2.99 ERA) vs Hellickson (4-2, 5.18 ERA)

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Old 06-13-2013, 08:13 PM   #301
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A GOLD GLOVE LEFT FIELDER MEANS NOTHING. NOTHING. NOTHING.

THE BOSTON RED SOX WON TWO WORLD SERIES WITH MANNY RAMIREZ IN LF.

A replacement level 3rd baseman that is hitting. 300 with an .OPS around .800 is way more valuable than a gold glove left fielder with those numbers and an every day 3rd baseman with an .OPS a tick over .500.
I really don't give a shit about that. I rather have Gordon play outfield more so than the 3rd base, because imagine how many runners he has gunned down from playing the LF position?

Again, your basis has no validity at all.

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Would a move rattle Gordon's fragile psyche? That's the biggest question?

What's clear is that an order with Lough, Cain, and Dyson would be better than adding Frenchy/Moose in any capacity.

There's just too many ****ing holes right now. 3rd? Sucks. 2nd? Sucks.
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:13 PM   #304
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he should bat 3rd...but with Perez, I can handle him at 1st.

and please tell me why a gold glove left fielder is important? Please.

Please tell me. It's literally the least important position on the field defensively...other than maybe 1B.
Oh, I didn't know the first baseman was one of the least important position in the field defensively.

I guess those saves Hosmer pulled out didn't mean anything.

Again, you're just talking out of your ass, as usual.
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:14 PM   #305
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I really don't give a shit about that. I rather have Gordon play outfield more so than the 3rd base, because imagine how many runners he has gunned down from playing the LF position?

Again, your basis has no validity at all.

Proceed to the end of the short bus, thank you.
well considering we already had the discussion and Duncan posted stats to prove how meaningless good defense is at LF if we're moving an .800 .OPS guy to take over for a .500 OPS guy

and gunned down?! How many people has he 'gunned' down this year?

I'm willing to bet it is less than 5.

God you're dumb.

Most of you are just so ignorant about baseball it scares me.
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Would a move rattle Gordon's fragile psyche? That's the biggest question?

What's clear is that an order with Lough, Cain, and Dyson would be better than adding Frenchy/Moose in any capacity.

There's just too many ****ing holes right now. 3rd? Sucks. 2nd? Sucks.
That's the part of the reason why I don't make that move, because Gordon has became a solid LF for the Royals, and there's no need to move him at this point. If Gordon was 30+ something, then I can see that side of the view, but other than that, it's pointless.

You can find a better 3rd baseman by looking at the FA market or making a small trade for one, than having to deal with moving one of your best defenders.
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I think we are just fine with Dyson on the bench. He isnt a great defensive OF'r. He isnt a great bat (I think he will get exposed and plummet if he is in there every day).

The best use for Dyson is to have an instant stolen base late in games, especially given that 1) we play close games every night, and 2) one of our best hitters runs like he has a piano strpped to his back.
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Oh, I didn't know the first baseman was one of the least important position in the field defensively.

I guess those saves Hosmer pulled out didn't mean anything.

Again, you're just talking out of your ass, as usual.

Ain't nothin' changed.
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no reason why Gordon can't play 3rd base

none

people like Chipper Jones bounced from LF to 3B back and forth over the entire duration of his career
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I think we are just fine with Dyson on the bench. He isnt a great defensive OF'r. He isnt a great bat (I think he will get exposed and plummet if he is in there every day).

The best use for Dyson is to have an instant stolen base late in games, especially given that 1) we play close games every night, and 2) one of our best hitters runs like he has a piano strpped to his back.
I agree that Dyson is ideally a 4th outfielder. In many respects, I think he's the most overrated player on the team.

However, we have absolutely ****ing nothing at 3rd and 2nd, and RF is worse still if Lough isn't playing.

For as much as ballwashers like Hud talk about depth, the Royals have absolutely none.
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right now...

the biggest hole in our lineup is 3B

if they want to platoon Gordon/Tejada at 3rd and play Dyson in left during games Gordon is at 3rd to get Moose back in AAA...

that's probably a GREAT ****ing option for our team

and we should be thrilled we have that versatility with Gordon.
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