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Old 05-01-2015, 06:36 PM  
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:41 AM   #301
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Seems like he's the RG at this point who can kick in or out if they need it?
You spend a 2nd round on a projected later round pick. The fat SOB better be playing from day one.

1st and 2nd round picks are impact picks and players that can start from day one.

Not some swing dick guard that might or might not play or can be kicked in or out as needed.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:41 AM   #302
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Petro said on Saturday when the Chiefs turned in the draft card they had him listed as Center. I imagine that is where he will begin at least.
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Watch the the first series of this game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLxxs1QPzfE

He's literally the worst-snapping center I've ever seen in my life.
Shit I forgot about that game. He couldn't snap a ball from shotgun formation if his life depended on it.

Welp....this is who we drafted in the 2nd rd....to be our starting center. Unbelievable.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:06 AM   #304
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You spend a 2nd round on a projected later round pick. The fat SOB better be playing from day one.

1st and 2nd round picks are impact picks and players that can start from day one.

Not some swing dick guard that might or might not play or can be kicked in or out as needed.
No, most 2nd round picks are high risk guys that bust.

Very few teams actually get immediate impact from their 2nd round pick. I think it's something like 1/3 of them end up starters within their first 3 years.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:16 AM   #305
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People really have no clue about just how few draftees pan out. Hilarious that time someone said you have to get an All pro in the 2nd or it's a failure.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:26 AM   #306
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People really have no clue about just how few draftees pan out. Hilarious that time someone said you have to get an All pro in the 2nd or it's a failure.
IF YOUR FOURTH ROUND PICK DOESN'T MAKE AT LEAST ONE PRO-BOWL, YOU'RE A ****ING reerun!!!

There's a damn interesting theory called the "Paradox of Skill" and what it essentially says is that if you take 100 people who are really good at what they do and pit them against each other in a zero sum game, the skill level is so high that the skills will largely cancel out and the outcome is going to be heavily dependent on blind, stupid luck.

The NFL Draft is fast becoming that sort of situation. These guys spend 3-4 months meticulously preparing for the draft. They've watched more film, done more interviews and spent more time researching backgrounds than a prosecuting attorney. Even if you don't feel like you have the absolute smartest GM in football, the odds overwhelmingly favor the possibility that you have someone who's at least quite good at spotting talent.

Even if you take out a handful of outliers, you're talking about 25 guys that are extremely good at what they do and they're definitely in a zero sum environment. To a very large degree, the skill cancels out and it's just luck at play.

20 years ago that wasn't the case. A guy like Jimmy Johnson could snow some of these crusty old football guys and get one past them. Now you have more and more teams dumping money into analytics departments and you have scouting teams that combine skill sets from all areas. You now have a fantastic combination of scouting expertise and number crunching to develop some pretty impressive groundwork on these prospects.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:31 AM   #307
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**** it, if he blows snapping the ball we still have Kush and this guy can move to practically anywhere else on the line. It's a solid pick no matter what, some people are just smoking crack if they think all 2nd rounders need to become all pro in their first season or they suck.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:36 AM   #308
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**** it, if he blows snapping the ball we still have Kush and this guy can move to practically anywhere else on the line. It's a solid pick no matter what, some people are just smoking crack if they think all 2nd rounders need to become all pro in their first season or they suck.
More CP Hyperbole garbage....

Who is saying this shit?
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:38 AM   #309
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Why was it a "panic" pick?
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:45 AM   #310
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More CP Hyperbole garbage....

Who is saying this shit?
Fair point.

It's mostly just idiots saying this shit:

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You spend a 2nd round on a projected later round pick. The fat SOB better be playing from day one.

1st and 2nd round picks are impact picks and players that can start from day one.
Yeah, you're right - way too much CP Hyperbole garbage around here...
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Both ESPN and NFLN were pretty complementary of Morse. Sounds pretty athletic.

If you ****ing idiots would watch Mizzou football you would know!
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Mitch Morse, G, Missouri
Height: 6-5. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.14.
Projected Round (2015): 3-5.
4/27/15: Morse was a starter at tackle for the Tigers, but for the NFL, he should kick inside to guard. Especially considering Morse has very short arms (32 1/4 inches). Moving to guard would help his pass protection. Morse may not have the skill set to develop into a difference-maker, but he could turn into a quality contributor up front. Some teams are eyeing Morse in the mid-rounds and sources say that he could be cross-trained at center.
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STRENGTHS: Like Justin Britt, Morse is a functional athlete whose strengths are his patience, power and tenacity. Morse has above average initial quickness and shows balance while he "chucks" his way back in pass protection. Morse shows good patience, allowing the defender to get near him before showing a quick, powerful punch to latch and control opponents. He plays with his knees bent, helping him to absorb bull rushes and plays on his toes, allowing him to slide laterally to mirror. Morse is attentive and can handle switching off on twists and unexpected blitzes. As a run blocker, Morse is at his best turning and sealing defenders with his initial quickness or simply driving them off the ball with power. He has good (but not great) quickness and balanced when dropping back into pass protection, as well as when pulling or sprinting out to block defenders at the second level.

WEAKNESSES: He is a bit top-heavy and struggled a bit with speed rushers while at both right and left tackle. He does not possess elite balance and foot speed in his kick-slide, though he's competitive and relatively long and therefore competitors must beat him off the edge; he doesn't give it up easily. Morse will lunge to protect the edge, however, and in doing so drop his head, leaving him vulnerable to swim and spins. Though he shows impressive straight-line speed to the second level, Morse's slightly top-heavy frame and average core flexibility cause him to struggle when needing to adjust to moving targets and too often he misses these blocks.

--Rob Rang

PLAYER OVERVIEW

Morse took over for Seattle Seahawks' second-round pick Justin Britt as the Tigers' left tackle in 2014 and promptly starred, earning Second Team All-SEC honors in his first season on the blindside. Switching positions is nothing new for Morse, who initially worked his way into the starting lineup at Mizzou at center in 2012 before injuries pushed him to right tackle, where he'd started the 17 games prior to that. It is this kind of dependability and versatility that could result in Morse competing for a starting role relatively early in his NFL career.
Morse possesses the frame to remain outside, though he projects better back to the right side. He has good, but not elite footwork to handle speed rushers. Morse has a powerful punch that could also prove effective inside at guard, as well.
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STRENGTHS Hard-charging with necessary grit. Smart lineman who understands his shortcomings and makes the proper adjustments. Climbs to second-level blocks with good angles and timing, refusing to stay glued to his initial secure block. Uses a balanced pass set and avoids the waist-bending and head-butting seen from many linemen at point of contact. Uses a well-timed punch and won't show length-limited punch too early. Good feel for landing accurate initial strike in pass pro or run game. Has some straight-line quickness and can get out into space in screen game.

WEAKNESSES Plays with lower body stiffness and that limits his bend and lateral agility. Makes good initial contact, but struggles to maintain his leverage and positioning when asked to block on the move. Needs more hip snap at contact for added power. His short arms are a concern as a tackle. Doesn't have length to redirect rushers far enough upfield when they get to his edge. Feet and hands don't always appear to be synced properly.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 3

SOURCES TELL US "Looks like he's tough, but limited on tape." -- AFC offensive line coach "He'll have to move inside but I like him. He's tough and sustains as a run blocker. I think he'll be a long-time starter." - NFC offensive line coach

BOTTOM LINE Morse relied on timing, instincts and angles to get guys blocked as a tackle at the college level but might lack the arm length and functional athleticism to play tackle in the pros. If he moves inside to guard, his toughness will serve him well, but he's not a power player and must prove that he can sustain his block and positioning to be an effective run blocker. Teams are heating up on Morse and some see him as one of the top transitional center prospects in the draft.
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sounds like a great 4th round pick
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Morse played as an interior lineman for much of his time at Missouri, and he was decent as a Left Tackle in the SEC. He will have a lot of value as someone who is a higher level interior line prospect but is experienced playing any position on the line.

This would seem to be a good person to have on a team that is trying to sort out an offensive line that was a flaming AIDS dumpster last year.
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sounds like a great 4th round pick
Sounds like a guy that will be as good of an interior lineman as Cameron Erving but taken a round later.

Ali Marpet went at 61 and he's a combine warrior from a DIII school. Do you really think a three year DI starter with similar measurables who was a second team All-SEC player was going to go in the 4th?

Sure thing, champ. Keep on mindlessly gulping down whatever Walter Football feeds you.
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