The Pioli Watch Thread

[cardken]

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

[ArrowheadHawk]

Originally Posted by Craqhead

This, and I hate too say it... but what if Clarks talking him into letting Herm have the last year on his contract.

GAWD DAMNIT... I kno I kno... im sorry

[smittysbar]

Originally Posted by Craqhead

This, and I hate too say it... but what if Clarks talking him into letting Herm have the last year on his contract.

GAWD DAMNIT... I kno I kno... im sorry

I don't know why so many on here believe that Clark actually wants Herm back for 1 more year very bad.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by smittysbar

I don't know why so many on here believe that Clark actually wants Herm back for 1 more year very bad.

I think the fact that he's still employed has something to do with it.

[KcMizzou]

The bigger question is Pioli. While there have been whispers that things are heating up with the Chiefs, he’s still a member of the Patriots front office. If the Pats lose him, the very way they acquire players will be torn in two.

Add it all together, and it’s tough to be a Patriots fan right now.

Oh, for ****'s sake....

Seriously?

No offense Pats fans... but you haven't known what "tough" is for a long while.

If Clark gets his man... I'll be sold. (And patient.)

[Craqhead]

Originally Posted by smittysbar

I don't know why so many on here believe that Clark actually wants Herm back for 1 more year very bad.

And the fact that the KC media has said so much...

[KChiefs1]

Some interesting comments by Pats fans about Pioli coming to KC:

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...kc_starti.html


11 comments so far...

1. Why is this still dragging on? What's taking these teams so long? How hard is it to hire a GM or head coach? This is football. Just football.
   Our next president of the United States hired his chief of staff, attorney general, secretary of state, national security advisor, etc etc in less time.
   No wonder these teams are eternal losers.
   
   
   Posted by I like turtles January 11, 09 09:38 AM
   
   

1. My understanding is that Kansas City is a great community to live in and the team certainly has a solid fan base and a good tradition. I live in Colorado and have been in Denver around game day and the fans travel in droves to support their team. I hate to see Pioli go but this could be a good move for him.
   
   Posted by bz January 11, 09 09:39 AM
   
   

1. bz, if you've spent 3 hours in KC you've spent a decade there. It's a forgettable town, the BBQ isn't very good and they have umm a lot of shopping malls. They still shop at Wal-mart even though a former executive bought the team and proved the Wal-Mart way isn't the way to run a winning organization.
   Still they're nice mostly unsophisticated people and I think the Pioli family would quickly get bored living there. Plus the schools aren't much to brag about - they fight teaching evolution in science class. It's all Pioli's if he wants it but I can't see a guy like him staying long when reality hits his family.
   
   Posted by CJ January 11, 09 01:10 PM
   
   

1. Exactly how long did it take our next president to hire his staff? Certainly more than a month. The Two year campaign certainly included thoughts and meetings regarding possible staffs. At least I hope so.
   
   Posted by Mr. Right January 11, 09 02:00 PM
   
   

1. I just don't understand, why Pioli is leaving. He got the greatest coach ever, awsome owner, best qb in the league. I just don't understand, what else he could get somewhere else, that he does nto have it here.... Unless, he like chalange..
   
   Posted by pawan January 11, 09 02:04 PM
   
   

1. CJ your opiiniion of KC is dead wrong, my guess is you have never spent anytime there. Ï have live iin both Boston and KÇ and would choose KÇ everyday of the week...
   For starters they have some of the highest standarized test scores so maybe you need to re-think yor whoe schools suck theory....Plus the BBQ is better and less expensive then anything NE has to offer. Ì think its funny someone calls KC eternal losers....Quick question what was being said about us before BB got here. When KC was winning division tiitle after division title..
   OH by the way Piolis wife is from KS so if it was that bad they wouldn't be considering it.. Both are fantastic situations is just depends on where he would rather be...I hope he stays but I also understand that KC is an ideal situation for any new gm. Age,salary cap, talent...they have a lot of flexibity...
   
   Posted by 11-5andout? January 11, 09 04:47 PM
   
   

1. Hey CJ, you have no clue what you are talking about. Let's assume for a second that you actually did spend three hours in Kansas City. If you hung out at a mall, and then went to the mall barbecue place does that make you some sort of a travel critic?
   You can never make any judgements about a city unless you have spent a considerable amount of time and you were with people who knew the city.
   I believe you are demonstrating that it is YOU that lacks sophistication. What a tool!
   
   
   
   Posted by Chieffan January 11, 09 05:00 PM
   
   

1. Pioli would be a fool to pass up this opportunity. I don't think he's a fool, so if he's offered it, I think he will be the new GM of the Kansas City Chiefs.
   
   Posted by ChiefsCrowd.com January 11, 09 10:30 PM
   
   

1. 11-5andout
   Pioli's wife is the Tuna's daughter, Dallas. So when did he coach in KC for her to grow up KS???? He coached the Giants and was on the Pat's staff before that...
   
   Posted by Iguide January 12, 09 09:19 AM
   
   

1. I read an article either on here or espn that stated she grew up in wichita,ks... I will try to find it and submit a link....
   
   Posted by 11-5andout? January 12, 09 12:17 PM
   
   

1. I am sure that CJ does not represent most New England fans. True, Kansas City is not Boston. There are not 10 million people there. It does not have 300 year old colleges or buildings. That doesn't make it a "forgettable town". You didn't tell us if you actually spent 3 hours there, but if you landed with that attitude I am sure that you did not have a good time.
   Kansas City has great BBQ. People are straightforward and they will tell you how they feel. For a man of his position, Pioli would find excellent private schools, and public schools in Kansas or the Missouri suburbs. I can't argue that inner city KCMO schools are having a hard time right now. Pioli and his family are going to love it.
   
   
   Posted by RobWilliams71 January 12, 09 04:04 PM
   
   

[KcMizzou]

I was about to blast this...

bz, if you've spent 3 hours in KC you've spent a decade there. It's a forgettable town, the BBQ isn't very good and they have umm a lot of shopping malls. They still shop at Wal-mart even though a former executive bought the team and proved the Wal-Mart way isn't the way to run a winning organization.
Still they're nice mostly unsophisticated people and I think the Pioli family would quickly get bored living there. Plus the schools aren't much to brag about - they fight teaching evolution in science class. It's all Pioli's if he wants it but I can't see a guy like him staying long when reality hits his family.

But the Pats fans did it for me...

Thanks for the respect, Boston.

[Reaper16]

"CJ" sounds like the prototypical Boston sports fan.

[carlos3652]

2007 Trade Notes
March 5: The Patriots acquired WR Wes Welker from the Miami Dolphins in exchange for a second-round selection in the 2007 NFL Draft (60th overall) and a seventh-round selection in the 2007 NFL Draft (238th overall).
April 29: The Patriots acquired WR Randy Moss from the Oakland Raiders in exchange for a fourth-round selection in the 2007 NFL Draft (110th overall – CB John Bowie).

Makes the surtain for a second rounder look bad...

[tk13]

Yeah, Dayton Moore turned down the Red Sox and came to the Royals because he didn't want his kids to grow up in Boston.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/977828-p2.html

Chiefs go about their business as GM hunt goes on
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Whether it’s Scott Pioli or someone else, the next Chiefs general manager might have to wait a while before he’s in his new job.

Interim president/general manager Denny Thum, who is assisting chairman Clark Hunt in the selection process, said Hunt hopes to hire a general manager before the Super Bowl, which is Feb. 1.

Hunt has interviewed Pioli, New England’s vice president for player personnel, and others. Hunt could interview as many as 10 candidates before he’s finished.

In the meantime, the Chiefs are going about business as usual. They recently signed several players, including quarterback Ingle Martin on Monday, to fill out the bottom of their roster.

The Chiefs have started preparing for free-agency, which begins in late February, and the April draft. They will have the third pick, their highest selection since choosing Nebraska defensive end Neil Smith with the second choice in 1988.

The uncertainty, which includes a most tenuous future for Herm Edwards and his coaching staff, makes these processes difficult.

“That’s for sure,” Thum said. “As far as specific direction with free-agency and the draft, until we hire a general manager, what we’re trying to do is cover all the bases.

“But our preparation hasn’t stopped. (Vice president) Bill Kuharich and his staff are getting ready for the draft. All of our scouts have left for the East-West practices and will go straight on to the Senior Bowl practices next week. (Pro personnel director) Ray Farmer is continuing to evaluate the waiver wire. Things are still going on. We’re moving forward.”

Thum joined the Chiefs 25 years ago as an accountant. He eventually worked his way to executive vice president with responsibilities for most of the business functions, including management of the salary cap and negotiation of player contracts.

He is the leading candidate to become Chiefs president, who will handle the business affairs. The general manager will oversee the football operation.

No matter the general manager, Thum indicated the Chiefs will be more active this year in free-agency. They gutted their roster after last season, and the few free agents signed by the Chiefs were low-impact starters or backups.

“We hope to continue to draft well,” Thum said. “But then you also hope to have some (veteran) players you can bring in that can fill specific roles and add a little more leadership on the football field. When you have a team as young as ours and you start looking around for answers on the field and everybody is about the same age as you, that makes it difficult.”

Thum met recently with Kuharich, Farmer, Edwards and coordinators Chan Gailey and Gunther Cunningham to evaluate the roster. He said he was affected by the strong improvement of many of the rookies as the season progressed.

He mentioned by name offensive lineman Branden Albert and cornerbacks Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr and Maurice Leggett — but not the Chiefs’ top draft pick, defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey.

“A lot of young players made a lot of growth throughout the season,” he said. “If you look at the first part of the season to the second half of the season, offensively we did some things better. Defensively, we still had some issues, but there were certain players that stepped up and played better.”

“It was very insightful. We still know there are areas we need to fill, but the coaching staff gave a good evaluation. It gives me a good feel as we start to look toward free-agency as far as areas of need. This is something that when the new GM is hired, I’ll be able to share with him.”

Edwards and the assistant coaches have been in limbo since the season ended on Dec. 28 with a 16-6 loss to the Bengals in Cincinnati. Hunt said the Chiefs would decide whether to retain Edwards and the staff once the general manager is hired.

Edwards is not free to make any staff changes, and the assistants were, at least until recently, not free to look for other jobs. But the Chiefs granted Houston’s request to interview secondary coach David Gibbs.

It’s unclear whether the Gibbs interview represents a policy change that allows Chiefs coaches to look for other jobs or whether it’s a one-shot deal. Gibbs has ties to the Texans. He once worked in Denver with head coach Gary Kubiak. His father, Alex, is a Houston assistant coach.

Either way, Edwards and the assistant coaches are still employed by the Chiefs.

Asked whether being placed in such a situation for a prolonged period was fair to Edwards and the other coaches, Thum said, “I would hope when we hire the new general manager, we can go through the evaluation process as quickly as possible.”

This is BALLS

**** that. Picking a new head coach after February? That's so stupid. We're probably going to be looking for a GM who will just as soon keep Herm around for another year.

Damn it

[kobebehar]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I think the fact that he's still employed has something to do with it.

[Reerun_KC]

Dear ****ing GOD, if we hire a GM and Herm is still here or coaches next year.. Pioli or not, That GM isnt worth a ****ing shit or his weight in shit...

Lets hope we get a GM with a sack between his legs... We dont need another Carl Peterson...

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Dear ****ing GOD, if we hire a GM and Herm is still here or coaches next year.. Pioli or not, That GM isnt worth a ****ing shit or his weight in shit...

Lets hope we get a GM with a sack between his legs... We dont need another Carl Peterson...

I have no problems keeping Herm another year with Pioli here. Maybe Pioli wants another coach that isnt available atm.


I do want Herm gone, but i have always sai dhe will be here another year from the get go.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

I have no problems keeping Herm another year with Pioli here. Maybe Pioli wants another coach that isnt available atm.


I do want Herm gone, but i have always sai dhe will be here another year from the get go.

Sure why not, he has already set this franchise back 2-3 years, what is the difference if he ****s it up for another year...

Nothing good can come from Herm being on the sidelines next year, it futher hurts the talent and youth on this team... No way Pioli, a successful VP, will come to KC and be forced to keep Herm... Pioli has been surround by success... There inst anything about Herm that remotely mentions success, unless his cock holster, which he runs freely, is considered successful.