Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 211

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

CaliforniaChief · 12-05-2013, 07:23 PM

Who knows? Maybe we couldn't or wouldn't get to where Beltran wants us to go, so we move towards Aoki in RF and go after Kendrick at 2B. I wouldn't mind if we went full-Brewer and tried to sign Corey Hart too. Maybe a 1 year deal with an option. He has power if he can stay healthy.

**Shogun** · 12-05-2013, 07:33 PM

also, what happens to dyson this year?

**alnorth** · 12-05-2013, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun

also, what happens to dyson this year?

He'd better be ready to impress in Arizona.

TambaBerry · 12-05-2013, 08:15 PM

I think Kendrick will be a royal in a few days.

**SuperChief** · 12-05-2013, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingleberry

Kendrick will be a royal in a few days.

Link?

TambaBerry · 12-05-2013, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperChief

Link?

Sorry, just a gut feeling I should have said it differently good catch.

dmahurin · 12-05-2013, 08:26 PM

As long as he brings his wife. Not quite as good as what Getz brought to the table but his play will more than make up for it.

penbrook · 12-05-2013, 08:39 PM

Per Ken Rosenthal

Sources: #Royals have not offered Beltran $48 million for three years. To get to that level, ownership likely would need to intervene.

penbrook · 12-05-2013, 08:58 PM

Per Mike Giovannna

#Angels might actually match up with #Royals in trade. KC could use 2B (Kendrick) and has young P (Zimmer, Ventura, Duffy, Marks) to give.

**alnorth** · 12-05-2013, 09:24 PM

I don't remember the last time we had this many moves or signings, and I wasn't yet annoyed with any of them.

Demonpenz · 12-05-2013, 09:26 PM

I want to keep Duffy and Ventura, but thats just because I have seen them play.

penbrook · 12-05-2013, 09:31 PM

So which pitcher would you give up to get Kendrick.

Sure-Oz · 12-05-2013, 09:38 PM

Duffy? I am not a fan of giving up Ventura or Zimmer.

TambaBerry · 12-05-2013, 09:38 PM

Duffy

**alnorth** · 12-05-2013, 09:40 PM

Here is Nori Aoki's contact heat map. If you are the opposing pitcher, where the hell do you throw?

Those Japanese contact hitters, man. They may not hit many out, but you can't strike 'em out.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1200308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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12-05-2013, 07:23 PM	#3151
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12-05-2013, 08:15 PM	#3154
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12-05-2013, 08:39 PM	#3158
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12-05-2013, 08:58 PM	#3159
penbrook LEGEND! Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $10033840	Per Mike Giovannna #Angels might actually match up with #Royals in trade. KC could use 2B (Kendrick) and has young P (Zimmer, Ventura, Duffy, Marks) to give.
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12-05-2013, 09:31 PM	#3162
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12-05-2013, 09:38 PM	#3164
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12-05-2013, 09:40 PM	#3165
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	Here is Nori Aoki's contact heat map. If you are the opposing pitcher, where the hell do you throw? Those Japanese contact hitters, man. They may not hit many out, but you can't strike 'em out. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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