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Old 01-14-2014, 08:54 AM  
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**** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread, Part 2 ****

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Old 03-18-2014, 10:44 AM   #3166
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Hopefully Self calls Collins and Aldrich to talk to the guys and tell them what it's like to not put effort and get beat by a shit team.

I'd imagine what they have to say would resonate with the kids.
If Collins says anything, it better be "Play as a team, and don't feel like you've got to win the game all by yourself."

His display during the NIU game was one of the most selfish displays ever by a player wearing a KU jersey.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:56 AM   #3167
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If that were true, I can name a number of teams that should've cut down the nets the last five years.

KU doesn't win it in 08 without magnificient guard play overall in the postseason. Same with Louisville and UConn in their national title winning years to name a few.

The 43 teams since 2004 with All-American guards have reached seven Final Fours (16.2%), won two championships (4.7%) and underachieved at a -.157 PASE rate—worse even than basic guard-dominant teams. The two champs were UConn and Kemba Walker in 2011 and Duke and Jon Scheyer in 2010.

Meanwhile, the 59 teams with All-Star frontcourt players have reached 12 Final Fours (20.4%), won five championships (8.5%) and overachieved at a +.167 PPASE rate—exactly the PASE that basic frontcourt-dominant teams have posted since 2004.
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:44 AM   #3168
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The 43 teams since 2004 with All-American guards have reached seven Final Fours (16.2%), won two championships (4.7%) and underachieved at a -.157 PASE rate—worse even than basic guard-dominant teams. The two champs were UConn and Kemba Walker in 2011 and Duke and Jon Scheyer in 2010.

Meanwhile, the 59 teams with All-Star frontcourt players have reached 12 Final Fours (20.4%), won five championships (8.5%) and overachieved at a +.167 PPASE rate—exactly the PASE that basic frontcourt-dominant teams have posted since 2004.
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Guardplay in college basketball has become one of these myths that seems to grow every year.

Bigs have always been the key and it's never been so obvious as in today's CBB.
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Old 03-18-2014, 12:13 PM   #3169
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Guardplay in college basketball has become one of these myths that seems to grow every year.

Bigs have always been the key and it's never been so obvious as in today's CBB.
True, but Wiggins is that damn good.
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Old 03-18-2014, 12:55 PM   #3170
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The 43 teams since 2004 with All-American guards have reached seven Final Fours (16.2%), won two championships (4.7%) and underachieved at a -.157 PASE rate—worse even than basic guard-dominant teams. The two champs were UConn and Kemba Walker in 2011 and Duke and Jon Scheyer in 2010.

Meanwhile, the 59 teams with All-Star frontcourt players have reached 12 Final Fours (20.4%), won five championships (8.5%) and overachieved at a +.167 PPASE rate—exactly the PASE that basic frontcourt-dominant teams have posted since 2004.
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That's quite interesting, but in all the championship winning teams I've seen in CBB the guards have played extremely well. Those numbers aren't mind numbingly apart either. Take Zona, they have one of the top front courts in the nation. Their guard play can be hideous at times and when it has they've lost, other times their elite team D has saved them. As a matter of fact, that's why a lot of people aren't high on them to win it all. Their guards play like high school guards at times, including Nick Johnson.

Balance is number one though as someone pointed out. On offense though a team with great guard play can tear apart a good front court, get them in foul trouble, etc.
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Old 03-18-2014, 01:17 PM   #3171
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I'm certainly not arguing that Tharpe and Selden can play at the level they've been at lately and give us much of a chance. Only that post play is more valuable in advancing.
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Old 03-18-2014, 01:38 PM   #3172
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Old 03-18-2014, 02:09 PM   #3173
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How the **** did KU lose to Colorado?

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How the **** did KU lose to Colorado?

These guys are terrible.
Pure luck.
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