****OFFICIAL 2013 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD****

[-King-]

2012-2013 NBA Champions:

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides

And it's been called a ton this playoffs.

Yep. There is multiple foul calls on moving\bad screens every game. It was that way during the regular season as well.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls

LeBron has been shitty as hell these conference finals. He's no MJ.

Just such a dumbass statement to make. Have you even watched a single game in this series? LeBron has been the best player in it by far.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

He is moving his feet on a screen as the player passes, makes contact with the offensive player (in fact, significantly stopping his momentum), and if you don't call that then you take away Stephenson's ability to switch off after going around the screen.

It is less likely to be called except that it was clearly a screen. And you know and I know that you have to be stationary if you're setting a screen.

Yep, agree with all of this. But watch pretty much any screen at the end of a game (or really at any time in the game) and you'll see players moving into it much like LeBron did. It's rarely called, especially in that kind of a situation.

Let's face it, if this game wasn't in Indiana, he wouldn't have gotten a foul there.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

That will be the narrative though, "Heat pushed around unfairly by the Pacers". I mean there HAS to be a reason to lose to a vastly inferior team right!?

Maybe for Heat homer fans. The Pacers are damn good physical team.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yep, agree with all of this. But watch pretty much any screen at the end of a game (or really at any time in the game) and you'll see players moving into it much like LeBron did. It's rarely called, especially in that kind of a situation.

Let's face it, if this game wasn't in Indiana, he wouldn't have gotten a foul there.

Do those players step on the opponents foot?

If not, then your point is moot.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides

No. I mean it's been called a lot more than I can ever remember

Haven't noticed such a thing. But I do laugh when I see them make that call because of how often they let it go.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yep, agree with all of this. But watch pretty much any screen at the end of a game (or really at any time in the game) and you'll see players moving into it much like LeBron did. It's rarely called, especially in that kind of a situation.

Let's face it, if this game wasn't in Indiana, he wouldn't have gotten a foul there.

It is not rarely called when they make moving screen calls multiple times every game. Was it borderline? Possibly but he clearly tried to trip the guy.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yep, agree with all of this. But watch pretty much any screen at the end of a game (or really at any time in the game) and you'll see players moving into it much like LeBron did. It's rarely called, especially in that kind of a situation.

Let's face it, if this game wasn't in Indiana, he wouldn't have gotten a foul there.

It's not just a shoulder nudge or leaning the body slightly. It's extending his leg out and actually making contact by tripping the player. You have to make that call because he basically took a defender out of the play and because there was clear contact. And it's not just legs getting tangled. It's a last minute screen, which you see by him putting his arms down -- his wide stanced screen is questionable in the first place, but moving his legs and making contact, it's a clear-cut call.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Haven't noticed such a thing. But I do laugh when I see them make that call because of how often they let it go.

Agreed. Kind of like holding in football. But LeBron's appeared to be obvious. Im surprised they called it, but thought the Pacers earned the win regardless

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

It is not rarely called when they make moving screen calls multiple times every game.

It is. Instead of watching the player with the ball one game, just spend the entire time watching players set screens and tell me the amount of times they are moving into them. It's almost rare to see a possession where such a screen doesn't occur. The refs only call a tiny fraction of what actually goes on.

Was it borderline? Possibly but he clearly tried to trip the guy.

He wasn't clearly trying to do anything other than setting a screen in the same way that he usually does in such situations. Unfortunately for him, though, Stephenson stepped on his foot while he was doing it making it more obvious and the game was in Indiana thus ensuring the foul.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides

Agreed. Kind of like holding in football. But LeBron's appeared to be obvious. Im surprised they called it, but thought the Pacers earned the win regardless

I think they may likely have won it anyway and that would have been fine. They would have deserved it. But a foul out of LeBron on a play like that is kind of an ugly way for that game to end.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

It is. Instead of watching the player with the ball one game, just spend the entire time watching players set screens and tell me the amount of times they are moving into them. It's almost rare to see a possession where such a screen doesn't occur. The refs only call a tiny fraction of what actually goes on.


He wasn't clearly trying to do anything other than setting a screen in the same way that he usually does in such situations. Unfortunately for him, though, Stephenson stepped on his foot while he was doing it making it more obvious and the game was in Indiana thus ensuring the foul.

What?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

It is. Instead of watching the player with the ball one game, just spend the entire time watching players set screens and tell me the amount of times they are moving into them. It's almost rare to see a possession where such a screen doesn't occur. The refs only call a tiny fraction of what actually goes on.


He wasn't clearly trying to do anything other than setting a screen in the same way that he usually does in such situations. Unfortunately for him, though, Stephenson stepped on his foot while he was doing it making it more obvious and the game was in Indiana thus ensuring the foul.

I don't disagree that it happens alot. I like the analogy Rudy made, it is like holding in the NFL, it happens every play but the refs only call the most obvious one. But it isn't a rare call like backing down for 5 seconds, they make this call every game and usually more than once.

You should go find the slo-mo version TNT showed, he clearly stuck out his foot to trip the defender it was pretty obvious. He tried to get away with it but he got caught. Way it goes.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by -King-

What?

Not sure what's hard to understand there. Do you seriously think that foul in that situation would have been called in a Heat home game?

Heck, do you think LeBron would have had even three fouls in that situation let alone five?

[KC native]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Hibbert is stupid athletic. It really is astonishing.

After another year or two of development, he can basically become David Robinson with far more offensive game.

Lol go look at Robinson's career numbers again.