Movies and TV Game of Thrones Thread - Page 217

**BigRedChief** · 02:53 PM

Feel free to discuss any future speculation, theories. Anything from the books is fair game to post. Everything that has been broadcast on TV or from HBO. No spoilers needed.

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Beef Supreme · 06-09-2016, 12:49 PM

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Hawk · 06-09-2016, 01:16 PM

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The Iron Islands process to pick a new King was better in the TV version. Hated the long drawn out political battle of houses and backstabbing and pages and pages of GRMM describing banquets and halls.

I have liked what the TV added that wasn't in the books. Brienne and the Hound battle. Bronn and Jamie interactions. Tyrion in the TV series. He was missing for a lot of the books.

But, the TV version totally ****ed up Dorne and the Sand Snakes and the Direwolfs.

Yes, how could I forget the single best show addition...Brienne vs. the Hound! Loved that fight scene.

Chiefspants · 06-09-2016, 01:22 PM

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Yes, how could I forget the single best show addition...Brienne vs. the Hound! Loved that fight scene.

Loved how ****ing brutal that scene was. Didn't care for the plot convenience of Brienne encountering both Arya and Sansa in a land mass equivalent of Siberia, but.... that fight scene makes me look past it.

DJ's left nut · 06-09-2016, 01:26 PM

Additionally, while the show badly botched the sand snakes (apart from one epic rack), they at least got rid of the single dumbest element of the entire book series - Quentyn Martell. They managed to free the dragons and introduce us to the windblown using Tyrion; a far FAR better plot mechanism than spending a couple hundred pages dragging Quentyn Martell around the world only to unceremoniously barbecue him.

It isn't always what was added, it was what was removed. By and large, the show had done an excellent job streamlining superfluous bullshit.

KCUnited · 06-09-2016, 01:49 PM

Brienne vs The Hound is how I imagine a Monica Seles vs Jimmy Connors tennis match would've sounded, minus the steel of course.

**Buehler445** · 06-09-2016, 02:09 PM

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Come on people, can we get back to business. I mean how hard is it to throw spoilers in spoiler tags? Why do people make such a fuss about something so easy and simple to do? Basic courtesies shouldn't be this hard or result in 5 pages of bitching. Coming on here saying something is going to happen because you read about it from leaked episodes or scripts is a BS move, and I really can't believe anybody here disagrees with that. BRC is trying to help avoid that but still trying not to go overboard, and people treat him like dirt when it would be REALLY F***ING EASY (and the courteous thing to do) to just comply with the no spoilers rules, and if your not sure, just spoiler tag it to be safe.

Dammit, now I'm dragged into this mess too. Okay, back on topic:

What the hell is up with the Brotherhood without Banners slaughtering people? I really hope there is more going on there as that makes no sense to me and is not what they have been doing in the past. They are supposed to help the common folks, not rob and murder them just like the people they used to fight against. Does anybody think that means that (BOOK SPOILER):

Spoiler!

The thought I heard us that one day of the three dudes recognized the hound and killed them presuming they were Lannisters

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The ****? How??

'Game of Thrones' Director Confirms Season 7 Will Be Shorter

"Game of Thrones" showrunners Dan Weiss and David Benioff caused a stir earlier this year when they suggested that the next (and final?) two seasons of "Game of Thrones" would be shorter than seasons past, encompassing just 13 episodes between them. Now, one of the show's directors has confirmed that an abbreviated season seven is indeed in order.

Jack Bender, who helmed two recent season six episodes, "The Door" and "Blood of My Blood," spoke with Vanity Fair about his work on "Thrones." When asked directly whether or not he'd return for the recently-ordered season seven, Bender told VF, "I don't know how to answer that."

He continued:
They're only doing seven [episodes], and they've got their regulars who have done it forever. I know that I had a wonderful experience doing the show and I know that Dan and David are thrilled with the shows. ... I haven't been asked yet and I also don't know what their schedule is going to be. But under the best of circumstances, schedule and everything, I had a great experience doing the show. If available and they wanted me to, I would love to do that."

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So is this because they're trying to finish the show before Martin releases his new book? Maybe that was a stipulation? I'm not understanding why you would want to have two short seasons with this popular of a show.

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The show has far fewer subplots going than the books, and they can move things along more quickly to a conclusion. Due to the talent involved in the show, from actors (who are getting older) and writers and directors to the producers themselves, all of whom will have to move on at some point, I think they can only hold this thing together for two more seasons. Plus they want to err on the side of fewer episodes in order to keep a pace of story-telling that will satisfy viewers. So only two more seasons makes sense to me if the show is going to maintain its quality level all the way through.

But the real issue on number of episodes per season is likely a budget issue. If they get a total budget of $60 million a season, and they try to split that among 10 episodes, then it becomes hard to do the material justice as we reach the point in the story where fantasy elements are overtaking the human elements, culminating in one or more huge battles among various factions, and also presumably between dragons and the white walkers. The CGI costs to do these last two seasons well, and with top notch visual effects that the show needs and deserves, are going to be HUGE for a TV show. It would be one thing if it were a movie with a $150 million budget for two hours of material, but the CGI cost is going to be completely unprecedented for TV.

Hawk nailed it. White walkers and war takes money.

**BigRedChief** · 06-09-2016, 02:12 PM

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Loved how ****ing brutal that scene was. Didn't care for the plot convenience of Brienne encountering both Arya and Sansa in a land mass equivalent of Siberia, but.... that fight scene makes me look past it.

There is one path in and out of the Vale. Why would they never meet on the same road coming and going?

**BigRedChief** · 06-09-2016, 02:17 PM

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Additionally, while the show badly botched the sand snakes (apart from one epic rack), they at least got rid of the single dumbest element of the entire book series - Quentyn Martell. They managed to free the dragons and introduce us to the windblown using Tyrion; a far FAR better plot mechanism than spending a couple hundred pages dragging Quentyn Martell around the world only to unceremoniously barbecue him.

It isn't always what was added, it was what was removed. By and large, the show had done an excellent job streamlining superfluous bullshit.

I agree. Much better about moving the story along but also keeping the same story lines but changing how it happens.

Spoiler!

DJ's left nut · 06-09-2016, 02:38 PM

And he still got to say he will eat every ****ing chicken in this room....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tozme1J7PpY

Epic scene.

**BigRedChief** · 06-09-2016, 02:38 PM

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Hawk nailed it. White walkers and war takes money.

I agree the CGI and stunts won't be cheap. I thought this years budget was $100 million due to the increase in actors salaries for two more seasons and the CGI increases this year with the dragons and war battles at Wintefell.

But, this is the biggest hit HBO and cable has ever had. Sopranos was a big hit in the USA but no where near the phenomena that is GOT worldwide. They should have the money to put out another two full seasons of 20 episodes. There is still plenty of story left to tell.

In 2015 HBO reported income of $4.7 billion. I'm sure GOT is responsible for a lot of that revenue. You can spend $200 million a year on GOT and that is still only a small % of your revenue.

Don't go cheap HBO.

**BigRedChief** · 06-09-2016, 02:40 PM

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And he still got to say he will eat every ****ing chicken in this room....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tozme1J7PpY

Epic scene.

epic line.

keg in kc · 06-09-2016, 02:54 PM

If I remember correctly DnD said months and months ago they thought they had about 13 episodes of story left to tell, so I doubt it's just an hbo thing. Hbo would I think try to milk it for all it's worth for as long as they can. They've been talking potential spinoffs for the better part of a year in fact.

**SAUTO** · 06-09-2016, 02:57 PM

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If I remember correctly DnD said months and months ago they thought they had about 13 episodes of story left to tell, so I doubt it's just an hbo thing. Hbo would I think try to milk it for all it's worth for as long as they can. They've been talking potential spinoffs for the better part of a year in fact.

This. Hell it may have been said a year ago

**SAUTO** · 06-09-2016, 02:58 PM

We talked about it in one of these threads, maybe it was spoilered and some of you guys missed it...

Sorter · 06-09-2016, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Additionally, while the show badly botched the sand snakes (apart from one epic rack), they at least got rid of the single dumbest element of the entire book series - Quentyn Martell. They managed to free the dragons and introduce us to the windblown using Tyrion; a far FAR better plot mechanism than spending a couple hundred pages dragging Quentyn Martell around the world only to unceremoniously barbecue him.

It isn't always what was added, it was what was removed. By and large, the show had done an excellent job streamlining superfluous bullshit.

I thought the Quentyn story was hit & miss. I do enjoy the Tattered Prince theories though.

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