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Old 01-08-2013, 07:37 AM   #1
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To you he isn't.. but let me ask you, have you watched any of his games this season? Well besides when he played the Chiefs.
dont start clouding the debate with reason and rationale. we here at CP can only base our opinions on what we've seen someone else here on CP say; and decide to accept it or belittle it.

and dont forget to add insults when the others don't agree with you, after you tell them to.
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:50 AM   #2
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To you he isn't.. but let me ask you, have you watched any of his games this season? Well besides when he played the Chiefs.
Ive seen him play. The kid is inconsistent but he can be elite IMO with Andy Reid because of his skill set.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:42 AM   #3
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To you he isn't.. but let me ask you, have you watched any of his games this season? Well besides when he played the Chiefs.
I have.

And he automatically takes a hit because he's been in the league and can't be consistent.

A complete unknown (ie. Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson) is worth infinitely more than a guy who has proven he can't prove anything. It's year 4 and he's still inconsistent. No thanks.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:10 PM   #4
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To you he isn't.. but let me ask you, have you watched any of his games this season? Well besides when he played the Chiefs.
If he was that good, the Bucs would extend him. When the Bucs decide you aren't good enough to play QB, it's indicative of something.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:05 AM   #5
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I do too! Just wouldnt not listen if they called and said "Hey andy, well give you Freeman, 13th pick, 2nd rd" Thatd be tempting
That would not even be a little bit tempting. Freeman is of so little value, relative to the first pick, I'd only consider maybe swapping 2nd's or maybe our 2nd for their 3rd.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:50 AM   #6
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That would not even be a little bit tempting. Freeman is of so little value, relative to the first pick, I'd only consider maybe swapping 2nd's or maybe our 2nd for their 3rd.
How so? He's 24 and has great ability. Hasnt worked with a QB guru. Id take him and Geno and say **** it
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:48 AM   #7
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How so? He's 24 and has great ability. Hasnt worked with a QB guru. Id take him and Geno and say **** it
If choice #1 is to draft Geno with the overall #1 pick, and choice #2 is to swap picks, get Josh Freeman, and draft Geno or Tyler Wilson with the #12 overall pick, then I'd have to say choice #2 sounds like a pretty good option.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:31 PM   #8
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Ya youre right. Was just throwing a package out there. But my pick is Geno Smith no 1
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:01 PM   #9
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Hypothetically if you are exchanging firsts for Freeman I don't understand the uproar. Freeman is 24 and can make all the throws. He would probably be the most talented QB Andy Reid has ever coached. It's pretty much like taking a QB first round, and still having a decent first pick. He is by no means a failure. He's been on some pretty awful teams. He has the type of issues that can be fixed. People calling him Cassel are borderline reeruned. Apples and Oranges.

This is all rumor any way, but if Reid made that call I would be comfortable with it. It would tell me he thinks Freeman is better than any QB in the draft which I don't find all that crazy.

I don't see Tampa making this move because I don't see how it benefits them. However, if they do so be it. I trust Reid more than any message board blowhards. Lets remember most of you wanted Sanchez and Clausen. Everyone can hit or miss whether its fans or the Pros.

Let Reid make the evaluation and live with it. Unless its Cassel then feel free to melt the **** down.

Just for the record I want to take Geno 1, but I'm not going to invest the time researching it like Andy Reid will in the upcoming months.

My biggest comfort is Scott Pioli is not making the call, and a real coach will be developing them.
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I tell you one thing for damn sure.

I'll take Freeman over any QB not named Geno coming out, and not worry two shits about it.

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I tell you one thing for damn sure.

I'll take Freeman over any QB not named Geno coming out, and not worry two shits about it.

FOR DAMN SURE SON
How sure?
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No way I give the top pick for Freeman. That would be foolish.
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