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Old 11-30-2011, 01:06 PM  
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Palko told he is starting in Chicago.


Todd Haley = massive buffoon.

I hope we can all move on from supporting this clown now.

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Old 11-30-2011, 08:48 PM   #316
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I think that this offense would be damn good if we had a quarterback.

Its really hard to build a castle on the sand.
Keep posting this, maybe it will save Haley's job.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:48 PM   #317
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I think that this offense would be damn good if we had a quarterback.

Its really hard to build a castle on the sand.
It's also hard to build a castle with a Cassel.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:51 PM   #318
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Clay, you think many coaches could win with the roster we have this year led by the qb we have ran out there.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:52 PM   #319
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Clay, you think many coaches could win with the roster we have this year led by the qb we have ran out there.
Here is what I think: Todd Haley will never be an NFL head coach ever again and no one will care.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:52 PM   #320
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Piolis first draft class with his scouts was a damn good draft that featured multiple players that made an instant impact.

Moeaki, Berry, Arenas and Lewis were all basically game one starters and all had very solid rookie years.

I will always think that the 2011 class would have followed that up with another class that could have made a similar impact if they had a full offseason to train on getting ready.

Just watch the Pittsburgh game again to see our kids really playing well.

Houston
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Bailey
Baldwin


This is once they have gotten up to speed, who knows how much better they would be at this point with a full offseason under their belt.
You can't ignore his first year which was a huge failure and Haley has been right there with him playing Matt Cassel. For whatever reason both thought Palko was a serviceable backup. You can't over look the talented OC's Haley has ran out of town or the type of training camp he ran this season which really set the tone early on. The fact that this team couldn't muster up a touchdown in a month or score one this last week that was missing one of its best pass rushers & it's best player really says a lot.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:53 PM   #321
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Keep posting this, maybe it will save Haley's job.
Im OK either way. The way Haley has handled the quarterback position the last couple weeks has me in awe...and before that is misinterpreted, I mean awe in a bad way.

No new coach is gonna want to take over a team as talented as this one with Cassel and Orton as the returning starting quarterback competition.

If Haley is fired, we have a really good chance at drafting a first round quarterback.

The only part of Haley losing his job that genuinely scares me is the Josh McDaniels angle of salvaging Cassel and Piolis rep.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:58 PM   #322
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The fact that this team couldn't muster up a touchdown in a month or score one this last week that was missing one of its best pass rushers & it's best player really says a lot.
yeah, it says that both Cassel and Palko are hot garbage.

No surprise there.

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Let me ask you the end all be all of this conversation:

Do you think this team could contend for the AFC next year with a legit quarterback?

I do.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:59 PM   #323
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Dipshit you said the roster was "dilapidated" when Haley took over.

I would say those listed are a solid core of players that any coach should be able to win with.
THE ROSTER WAS DILAPIDATED. Holy shit.


Quarterbacks
8 Quinn Gray
4 Tyler Thigpen
Running Backs
26 Jackie Battle
25 Jamaal Charles
42 Mike Cox FB
27 Larry Johnson
Wide Receivers
82 Dwayne Bowe
83 Mark Bradley
89 Devard Darling
85 Will Franklin
14 Kevin Robinson KR/PR
80 Jeff Webb
Tight Ends
87 Brad Cottam
88 Tony Gonzalez
45 Michael Merritt
Offensive Linemen
76 Branden Albert T
71 Andrew Carnahan T
73 Adrian Jones G
77 Damion McIntosh T
64 Rudy Niswanger C
67 Barry Richardson T
74 Wade Smith G/C
75 Herb Taylor T
65 Tavares Washington G/T
54 Brian Waters G
Defensive Linemen
94 Jason Babin DE
70 Alfonso Boone DE/DT
72 Glenn Dorsey DT
95 Ron Edwards DT
92 Wallace Gilberry DE
91 Tamba Hali DE
69 Derek Lokey DT
96 Andy Studebaker DE
93 Tank Tyler DT
Linebackers
50 Rocky Boiman OLB/ILB
57 Weston Dacus ILB
52 Curtis Gatewood OLB
56 Derrick Johnson ILB
55 Pat Thomas ILB
53 Demorrio Williams OLB
Defensive Backs
39 Brandon Carr CB
35 Oliver Celestin SS
30 Ricardo Colclough CB
24 Brandon Flowers CB
34 David Macklin CB
47 Jon McGraw FS
38 DaJuan Morgan SS
44 Jarrad Page FS
49 Bernard Pollard SS
23 Patrick Surtain CB
Special Teams
5 Connor Barth K
2 Dustin Colquitt P
48 Thomas Gafford LS
Reserve Lists
12 Brodie Croyle QB (IR)
51 J. P. Darche LS (IR)
59 Donnie Edwards OLB (IR)
11 Damon Huard QB (IR)
97 Brian Johnston DE (IR)
31 Maurice Leggett CB (IR)
90 Turk McBride DE (IR)
21 Kolby Smith RB (IR)

Bolded players are still on rosters in the NFL.
How many are still making a difference in the NFL? The talent on this team was a joke.
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Old 11-30-2011, 09:01 PM   #324
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yeah, it says that both Cassel and Palko are hot garbage.

No surprise there.

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Let me ask you the end all be all of this conversation:

Do you think this team could contend for the AFC next year with a legit quarterback?

I do.
No. I think we'll draft Barkley or Griffin (atleast we should) but will either keep Cassel or Orton and will try our best to go 9-7.
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Old 11-30-2011, 09:03 PM   #325
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The talent on this team was a joke.
Completely disagree.

We had cornerstone players: RB, WR, LT, 2 LBs, 2 CBs, etc. Now, one could argue that Haley maximized the talent from these players, but it's disingenuous IMO to claim that the roster was devoid of talent.

Depth is an issue with all NFL teams; front-line talent trumps, and ours had a great deal of promise.
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Old 11-30-2011, 09:05 PM   #326
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If we draft a qb in the top 5, they should start from day 1 IMO. Look at recent success of first round qbs.

If we get everyone back healthy next year and get a qb we should contend for the division. AFC? I dunno bout that. However the powers of the AFC seem to be shifting away from PITT and BALT. THey are still good teams but not powers.
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Maybe Todd is auditoning Palko's talent so we can get a high draft pick for him. Hey we don't know !
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Palko told the KC media he was starting Sunday too. Why do you think Harman offed himself?
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Completely disagree.

We had cornerstone players: RB, WR, LT, 2 LBs, 2 CBs, etc. Now, one could argue that Haley maximized the talent from these players, but it's disingenuous IMO to claim that the roster was devoid of talent.

Depth is an issue with all NFL teams; front-line talent trumps, and ours had a great deal of promise.
Agree. However Charles was a little unknown in 08.


I'd argue that we have as much front line talent as anyone in the NFL. We are lacking at 1 position and depth.
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Completely disagree.

We had cornerstone players: RB, WR, LT, 2 LBs, 2 CBs, etc. Now, one could argue that Haley maximized the talent from these players, but it's disingenuous IMO to claim that the roster was devoid of talent.

Depth is an issue with all NFL teams; front-line talent trumps, and ours had a great deal of promise.

The argument is that you can't replace forty players in three off-seasons, one with the lame-duck scouting staff.
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