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Old 09-19-2013, 09:52 PM  
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Keep f***ing doubting Alex Smith

The title of the thread says it all....

**** you doubters. He plays with heart, and he continues to get the job done. You people who bash Alex, I don't even consider true fans. He plays his heart out every week, and you continue to bash him...

Keep bashing him, I'll keep backing him.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:36 PM   #316
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Good grief.

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Got a laugh out of me too.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:37 PM   #317
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This is a good thread really, because Alex Smith pretty much = Trent Green. Except that I guess Green had a much rougher first year here.

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Old 09-23-2013, 01:40 PM   #318
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You don't come out a winner a lot challenging a defense on their terms.

22 (21%) of Smith's passes this year are on 2nd and 8+ yards
12 (11%) of Smith's passes this year are on 3rd and 9+ yards

11 times a game you are passing when the defense can fish for an INT.

Smith is completing
63% on 1st down passes
68% on 2nd down passes

So it's not really his fault they are in bad spots.
Some QBs HAVE to challenge defenses because they are asked to win games. You can't dink and dunk your way to wins when you are down. Alex Smith over the last little while has had the luxury of having leads or small deficits. Other QBs don't have the luxury of moving the ball up the field with dumpoffs. When you have a great D, you can get by with taking what the defense gives you. Smith has made a living off of that. He won't be able to do that against better teams, though.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:42 PM   #319
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Why would a QB want to force the ball into tight windows if he doesn't have to?
There's a difference between forcing the ball into tight windows and throwing the ball into tight windows because you can.

We don't know which one Alex Smith is. He hasn't done anything like it yet in Kansas City
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:42 PM   #320
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Some QBs HAVE to challenge defenses because they are asked to win games. You can't dink and dunk your way to wins when you are down. Alex Smith over the last little while has had the luxury of having leads or small deficits. Other QBs don't have the luxury of moving the ball up the field with dumpoffs. When you have a great D, you can get by with taking what the defense gives you. Smith has made a living off of that. He won't be able to do that against better teams, though.
Alex has been doing the same thing for three years with success. If teams could stop him, they would have done so already.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:44 PM   #321
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There's a difference between forcing the ball into tight windows and throwing the ball into tight windows because you can.

We don't know which one Alex Smith is. He hasn't done anything like it yet in Kansas City
I know he can when he has to. I saw him do it from our own five yard line on a 3rd and long situation last week. He had to make that throw at that point in the game. It was his most important throw since he's been a Chief.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:51 PM   #322
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I know he can when he has to. I saw him do it from our own five yard line on a 3rd and long situation last week. He had to make that throw at that point in the game. It was his most important throw since he's been a Chief.
How many 3rd and longs has he converted on? I know he had a huge one in the opening series against the cowboys and I think at least 3 vs. Philly. Those were pretty important too, if not game changing plays!
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:56 PM   #323
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1st down is a good time to try some big pass plays. Wasn't the Fasano opening play one?

But with the run blocking and Charles getting nowhere 1st Down has turned into Smith swing it out or quick pass for 5 yards.
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Old 09-23-2013, 02:00 PM   #324
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How many 3rd and longs has he converted on? I know he had a huge one in the opening series against the cowboys and I think at least 3 vs. Philly. Those were pretty important too, if not game changing plays!
4/12

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...e=NFL&rank=047

But they all seem to of been in the 2 close games not the Jags stomping.
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There's a difference between forcing the ball into tight windows and throwing the ball into tight windows because you can.

We don't know which one Alex Smith is. He hasn't done anything like it yet in Kansas City
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taDd19Bf2fM

That was cheesy..I know..but that was a sample of some throws that he has made in the past...

But just in case you say, well that was when he was a niner...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taDd19Bf2fM

That was cheesy..I know..but that was a sample of some throws that he has made in the past...

But just in case you say, well that was when he was a niner...

Back shoulder giving the safety no chance at the ball!
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Not cheesy at all, great video. Some great throws in there!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taDd19Bf2fM

That was cheesy..I know..but that was a sample of some throws that he has made in the past...

But just in case you say, well that was when he was a niner...

Thanks, that's the one I was referring to.
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Don't take it personally SNR, it's just that some of the incessant whining going on about upgrading the QB position after three games into the 2013 season (games which have been won, by the way), is more than a little stupid all things considered.

The offensive line has been crap in both run blocking and pass protection.

The tight end situation, which is featured prominently in Reid's offense, is atrocious.

Our receiving corps outside of Bowe is miserable. (And defenses know this as Bowe has been double covered almost constantly since the opening whistle of game one.)

And, Andy Reid's west coast option offense is short to mid-field based. It's an offense that is based on ball control, field position, high percentage passing.

And yet, despite all of this, the Chiefs are still 3-0, with a lot of that to do with Smiths ability to direct and sustain timely drives.

3-0.

And yet I've read in this thread multiple times that we'll never be really successful in the playoffs unless we've got a guy like Matt Stafford.

Well, how about just getting to the ****ing playoffs? Do the negativists have any conceptualization about how ****ing bad the Chiefs have been with regard to even getting into the playoffs the past 20 years? And now you want to actually replace the QB who has only played three games with the team in a new system with the deficiencies listed above and still has the team at 3-0?!?!

Yeah, it makes one look reactionary and objectively ignorant to criticize him and call for his replacement already, especially because of . Hell, look at the San Fran fans who were happy as all hell to jettison Smith for Kaepernick. How's that working out for them so far in 2013?

Like I've said numerous times before, if you want to watch and root for a QB and team who love pushing it down the field, giving you that vertical game many so apparently yearn for, then the Detroit Lions would love you as a fan. Stafford to Johnson absolutely provides what the Smith antagonists desire.
This should be required reading for all of the Smith haters.
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I just don't agree with this. Dinking and dunking is the key to winning championships. It's not the 35 yard bomb that wins championships, it's teams unable to stop your short yardage attack. Saw this comment and totally agree

"Have any critics of Alex Smith, be they in the Niner fanbase or nationally, noted the fact that Joe Montana didn't push the ball vertically either? Niner fans who trashed and still trash Smith have a phenomenally selective memory when it comes to Montana's limitations as a QB. And if you think I'm exaggerating, check out Montana's stats from his greatest season (1989). A lower percentage of his completions that season traveled at least 20 yards than did that of Smith last year. Montana's leading receiver in '89? Fullback Tom Rathman. I'll bet my house and my third testicle that of Rathman's 73 grabs, not one was caught more than 20 yards downfield. I'll bet my one of my wife's testicles that not a single one traveled beyond 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. Yet, no one within the fanbase bitched or moaned about the fact that No. 16 dinked and dunked his way to 4 Super Bowls and the distinction of the greatest QB of his generation. While Smith wasn't Montana, he was evolving at the time of his concussion into a breathing embodiment of the West Coast quarterback that Bill Walsh and his system embraced. And the fans here—with nothing else to complain about Smith's game—rejected him, using the most prominent feature of the West Coast offense to further their criticism and abuse. Just shameful."

Lots of reasons for optimism. Not only is Smith perfect for Coac's offense, Jamaal Charles is as well. His full skills are finally being utilized. This is all without tight ends at full health,
Should also be required reading for the Alex haters. Especially Niner fans.
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