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Old 02-17-2013, 02:39 AM  
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Would you trade the no. 1 pick for Cam Newton?
We ran into this topic late Saturday night in another thread.

I personally don't like Cam at all. He's got a ton of talent, but is an absolute idiot. He can't even learn a full playbook. Newton has put up some big numbers, but they haven't translated into a lot of wins.

He is 13-19 as a starter over 2 years.

58.9% comp | 7,920 yards pass | 40 passing TDs | 29 INTS | 1,447 rush yards | 22 rushing TDs |

Would you give up our no. 1 pick for Cam Newton?
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:13 PM   #316
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If it keeps us from taking a guard at 1? Yeah, sure.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:14 PM   #317
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My thoughts on the matter is it's been so long since we've had an elite QB, and the draft is such a crapshoot when it comes to QBs, if I have a chance to pick up a guy who has elite talent and has done better than most QBs in his first two years in the league, I'm pulling the trigger.

The fact he is an asshole who would incense half our moronic fanbase is a bonus.
This on both points x2.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:21 PM   #318
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I thought one of *****'s only bright spots was high character guys, team captains. Now we can't bring in talent instead of drafting an unknown? You are bending to CPeer pressure.
Jeff George and Ryan Leaf were tremendously talented QBs who won jackshit because of their character issues.

I realize the easy solution is to gravitate towards one extreme or another, but it's also not a productive way to build a team.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:21 PM   #319
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Cam isn't that good of a football player, even before you consider his attitude and lack of leadership/character.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:25 PM   #320
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Jeff George and Ryan Leaf were tremendously talented QBs who won jackshit because of their character issues.

I realize the easy solution is to gravitate towards one extreme or another, but it's also not a productive way to build a team.
True, and conversely geno may never put up half the numbers of cam. Sometimes you can coach through attitude. Sometimes people you work with would never hang out with you, but still do their jobs on the field. Winning would cure so many of these problems.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:28 PM   #321
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:22 AM   #322
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You are bending to CPeer pressure.
This is the biggest crock of shit ever.

People here who want a QB aren't participating in group think.

As hard as it is for your small mind to contemplate, pretty much everybody on the "QB or bust" bandwagon arrived there INDEPENDENTLY.

You can take your peer pressure and shove it up your ass.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:24 AM   #323
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Aaron Rodgers should be castrated for doing "The Belt." /sarcasm
He does the Discount Double Check when his team is down by 20? Oh wait...
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:29 AM   #324
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He does the Discount Double Check when his team is down by 20? Oh wait...
I can't hear you from your soapbox.
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This is the biggest crock of shit ever.

People here who want a QB aren't participating in group think.

As hard as it is for your small mind to contemplate, pretty much everybody on the "QB or bust" bandwagon arrived there INDEPENDENTLY.

You can take your peer pressure and shove it up your ass.
Have your coffee, wake up, come back and re-read the posts. A) wasn't talking to you. B) was talking about Scott P, "poisoned the waters". Two years ago it was all over this place that was all he would draft. Character guys, and team captains. C) **** you and your superiority complex.
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I can't hear you from your soapbox.
I don't know what's going on with maqe, he's usually one of the level headed posters open to debate for debate purposes, without jumping straight to the name calling and shit slinging.
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I can't hear you from your soapbox.
So you have a problem with reality?

That's not a soapbox, bud.
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I don't know what's going on with maqe, he's usually one of the level headed posters open to debate for debate purposes, without jumping straight to the name calling and shit slinging.
What's wrong with me?

4 months of being called a sheep.

4 months of being called a lemming.

4 months of being assaulted at every turn because I have the audacity to watch hundreds of hours of college football and think this team needs to draft Geno Smith.

I've lost my mind, Coffey. I'm ****ING TIRED of being ridiculed for having this opinion, especially when this opinion is VASTLY superior to the IDIOTS that think it's a good idea to sign Alex Smith and draft Luke Joeckel.
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So you have a problem with reality?

That's not a soapbox, bud.
No, you stand there and preach when a player can and can't celebrate. Some players have rituals that they do after every touchdown they score. Big deal. People with a pre-disposed hate for Cam Newton like to use this garbage as reasons to not take the guy, regardless of what he has done on the field.
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No, you stand there and preach when a player can and can't celebrate.
Absolutely not.

I defended Dwayne Bowe for doing EXACTLY that - celebrating a TD when the team was down by 3 TDs.

I was pointing out that the Aaron Rodgers sarcasm doesn't work because there isn't an element of truth to it - Aaron Rodgers doesn't celebrate when the team is down by 3 scores.
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