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Old 05-21-2014, 09:51 AM  
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***The Official Chiefs OTA's Thread***
Might as well get this started since we are within a week of it beginning.


OTA offseason workouts: May 27-29, June 3-5, June 10-13
Mandatory minicamp: June 17-19


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Old 06-02-2014, 02:16 PM   #316
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Well I don't. Daniel has / had experience from being in the league 6 years. THAT is HUGE. True, no starts / playing time, but he gained experience from being around the game at the NFL level. When it was his time, he answered the call very well. I wouldn't trust Tyler Bray in that same situation. I know he doesn't have the experience and I don't think he's got the smarts for it...
I can't help that Booger is older and more experienced...the best apple to apples example I can give is when they both took snaps against GB in preseason last year.

They had the same preparation going into the game...one was an undrafted rookie who has trouble grasping the offense. The other had 5 years experience, a $3.5M contract, and is really really smart.

Below is from AP:

"Chase Daniel: 4-of-8 for 27 yards and 1 INT. Not his best performance. He was sacked twice. The offensive line struggled, yes, but so did he. Chase played the entire first quarter and the first few minutes of the second. Alex Smith has his limitations and Chase seems to have the same, but Alex has a better grasp of running the offense it seems.

Tyler Bray: 14-of-25 for 169 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT. He entered the game at the 11:36 mark of the second quarter and played the rest of the game. His big arm was evident as he went deep a few times, including a 43-yard touchdown to Josh Bellamy. He also showed some touch with an 8-yard touchdown pass to Junior Hemingway as the first half ended. Tyler Bray was the better quarterback on this night."

Now Bray may not be as good as Daniel as illustrated above...but he is cheaper, and has a higher ceiling IMO. Do I think Bray could have done well against SD if he would have had an entire week to prep for the game, also....yes.
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Old 06-02-2014, 03:57 PM   #317
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Who the **** advocates paying an average backup $3.5M? Yeah he better should have almost beat SD....he makes more than Russel Wilson!
Daniel is actually the 4th highest paid back up.

Matt Moore is making $4MM.

http://www.therichest.com/sports/top...-for-20132014/
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Old 06-02-2014, 04:19 PM   #318
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Daniel is actually the 4th highest paid back up.

Matt Moore is making $4MM.

http://www.therichest.com/sports/top...-for-20132014/
You're making that up man! No one pays their backup QB that much!!!!
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Old 06-02-2014, 04:21 PM   #319
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You're making that up man! No one pays their backup QB that much!!!!
Only one of the QBs on that list doesnt have significant playing time at starter.

Give ya 9 guesses which one it is.

Daniel became one of the top paid backup QBs while throwing 9 career passes.
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Only one of the QBs on that list doesnt have significant playing time at starter.

Give ya 9 guesses which one it is.
Matt Hasselbeck!

Nailed it!
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Daniel is actually the 4th highest paid back up.

Matt Moore is making $4MM.

http://www.therichest.com/sports/top...-for-20132014/
And how many starts does Daniel have compared to the three QBs in front of him?
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Old 06-02-2014, 04:44 PM   #322
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And how many starts does Daniel have compared to the three QBs in front of him?
Most of the guys on that list were acquired with the intention of them being the starter and they were beaten out for the job.
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I heard the price for Daniel kept going up because the Saints were matching most offers.

Just what I heard.
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Most of the guys on that list were acquired with the intention of them being the starter and they were beaten out for the job.
lolwut?

Considering that list is old.....

Weeden is with the Cowboys now....so no.
Ponder? Sure.
Stanton? No.
Gabbert? Maybe with the Jags....but not now with the 49ers.
Kolb? Sure.
Fitzpatrick? Not even with the Titans anymore but when he was....he was there to backup Locker.
Daniel? No.
Orton? No.
Hasselbeck? No.
Moore? No.
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Old 06-02-2014, 05:00 PM   #325
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And how many starts does Daniel have compared to the three QBs in front of him?
well if you only consider 'successful' starts then it's pretty close to even


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lolwut?

Considering that list is old.....

Weeden is with the Cowboys now....so no.
Ponder? Sure.
Stanton? No.
Gabbert? Maybe with the Jags....but not now with the 49ers.
Kolb? Sure.
Fitzpatrick? Not even with the Titans anymore but when he was....he was there to backup Locker.
Daniel? No.
Orton? No.
Hasselbeck? No.
Moore? No.
You do realize that list was from last year, right?
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You do realize that list was from last year, right?
Try February 2014. Look at the date on the article.
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Try February 2014. Look at the date on the article.
Uh... why don't you THINK about the date on the article. February was before any of those guys went to their new teams.

Did you not notice that Brandon Weeden was listed as a Brown?
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And that was before any of those guys went to their new teams.

Did you not notice that Brandon Weeden was listed as a Brown?
Did you ****ing read my goddamn post? Even if you look at their old teams....that adds what....2 to the guys who should have been starters. That does not equal MOST like you claimed.
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As I said time and time again, I'd be happier than a pig in shit if Bray puts it all together. His ceiling is a metric ****TON higher than Murray's. While saying that it's my belief that Murray will be at least Matt Schaub's level in the long run.
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