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duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

MVChiefFan · 12-06-2013, 11:24 PM

I'm not gonna lie and say I'm not disappointed. But on to the next, what would take, realistically, to land Kendrick?

penbrook · 12-06-2013, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVChiefFan

I'm not gonna lie and say I'm not disappointed. But on to the next, what would take, realistically, to land Kendrick?

Some young pitchers.

duncan_idaho · 12-06-2013, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook

Got to sign Kemp or Choo.

Trade Butler and Zimmer for Kendrick

Kemp is not a free agent.

I wouldn't give up Kyle Zimmer by himself for Kendrick, let alone compound it by pairing KC's best hitter.

Where is the upside there? KC gets a WORSE hitter than Butler and also gives up its top pitching prospect? Brilliant.

ChiefsCountry · 12-06-2013, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Kemp is not a free agent.

I wouldn't give up Kyle Zimmer by himself for Kendrick, let alone compound it by pairing KC's best hitter.

Where is the upside there? KC gets a WORSE hitter than Butler and also gives up its top pitching prospect? Brilliant.

Then why would the Angels want Butler with Pujols and Trumbo anyways. Real smart trade.

MVChiefFan · 12-06-2013, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Kemp is not a free agent.

I wouldn't give up Kyle Zimmer by himself for Kendrick, let alone compound it by pairing KC's best hitter.

Where is the upside there? KC gets a WORSE hitter than Butler and also gives up its top pitching prospect? Brilliant.

This is why I always respect your thoughts and always feel like you're right on! What do you think it would take to get Kendrick? And, if we had to part with Butler could Trumbo fit in there anywhere or would we even want him? I know Butler hits for better average but Trumbo has the power and while his defense isn't very good I still feel he provides better defensive depth than Butler.

cumshotguru · 12-06-2013, 11:58 PM

Just wait until we call up Dozier at the ASB and he hits 15 hrs and 72 RBIs.

Chiefs Pantalones · 12-07-2013, 01:08 AM

@incarceratedbob: **BREAKING MLB NEWS**Source: Dodgers talking trade with Royals/Red Sox/Rangers involving Matt Kemp ' Royals aggressive after losing Beltran

TLO · 12-07-2013, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

@incarceratedbob: **BREAKING MLB NEWS**Source: Dodgers talking trade with Royals/Red Sox/Rangers involving Matt Kemp ' Royals aggressive after losing Beltran

penbrook · 12-07-2013, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke

So we're getting Matt Kemp?

penbrook · 12-07-2013, 02:05 AM

Per IncarceratedBob

Scout from AL just text me..
"Watch the Royals & Mets , both teams are preparing for big moves" hmmmm?

BigCatDaddy · 12-07-2013, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

@incarceratedbob: **BREAKING MLB NEWS**Source: Dodgers talking trade with Royals/Red Sox/Rangers involving Matt Kemp ' Royals aggressive after losing Beltran

Another Bob that should be banned from CP.

tk13 · 12-07-2013, 02:11 AM

Yeah there's a rock solid source. The deal is done.

penbrook · 12-07-2013, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Another Bob that should be banned from CP.

The Cubs and Royals are two of the teams who have shown interest in Joba Chamberlain, Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News tweets.

penbrook · 12-07-2013, 02:24 AM

Incarcerated Bob did get the Morneau and Granderson signings right though.

Archie F. Swin · 12-07-2013, 06:51 AM

twitter in December...

...I'm going ****ing insane!!

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1200308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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