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**HemiEd** · 12:48 PM

Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Series of Accidents Caused by Sudden Acceleration

Anyone else been following this story? They had a pretty graphic show on nightline about it last night.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Runawa...ory?id=8980479

Refusing to accept the explanation of Toyota and the federal government, hundreds of Toyota owners are in rebellion after a series of accidents caused by what they call "runaway cars."

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Department of Transportation: underlying defect causes accelerators to stick.

More PhotosSafety analysts found an estimated 2000 cases in which owners of Toyota cars including Camry, Prius and Lexus, reported that their cars surged without warning up to speeds of 100 miles per hour.

CLICK HERE FOR MORE OF THE RUNAWAY TOYOTAS STORY.

Toyota says the incidents are caused by floor mats becoming stuck under gas pedals, but owners say that's not what happened to them.

Watch the full report tonight on 'World News with Charles Gibson' and 'Nightline'.

"I'm absolutely certain that in my situation, it was not the floor mats," Elizabeth James told ABC News. She was driving her Toyota Prius outside Denver, CO when she says it suddenly shot up to 90 miles an hour, even though her foot was on the brake and not the gas pedal.

"I kept going faster and faster," James said. "And all of a sudden… my foot was pressing on the brake super, super hard and I wasn't slowing down."

James and some other Toyota owners suspect the accidents have been caused by some kind of glitch in the electronic computer system used in Toyotas that controls the throttle.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...at-recall.html

**Donger** · 02-03-2010, 01:09 PM

So this is being caused by buggy code?

"God help us, we're in the hands of engineers!"

Radar Chief · 02-03-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

So this is being caused by buggy code?

"God help us, we're in the hands of engineers!"

Radar Chief · 02-03-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I had a late model Camry following me real close, too close yesterday, I pulled over and let him by.

Were they banging on the windows and pleading for help as they sped by?

**Bugeater** · 02-03-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Were they banging on the windows and pleading for help as they sped by?

**HemiEd** · 02-03-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Were they banging on the windows and pleading for help as they sped by?

, actually I was the one with white knuckles as I watched it in my rear view mirror. The guy was a ****ing tailgator which added to the experience.

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In a crisis situation sometimes people freeze. Look at that 911 call from the cop about the stuck gas pedal. He's had training to remain calm in a situation. If he's thinking he turns off the ignition or puts it in neutral.

Turning of the ignition is a bad thing, as it locks the steering wheel, but I don't think it is possible on these cars anyway.

**Donger** · 02-03-2010, 01:58 PM

I'd like to suggest the name of the next Toyota model:

Christine.

**Bugeater** · 02-03-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Turning of the ignition is a bad thing, as it locks the steering wheel,

Ed, we've been through this already.

jjjayb · 02-03-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

So this is being caused by buggy code?

"God help us, we're in the hands of engineers!"

If your accelerator sticks you just need to Ctrl+alt+del.

Tactical Funky · 02-03-2010, 05:09 PM

This is the sort of issue that can arise when a company expands too quickly and lessens oversight on parts suppliers - not to mention the best Toyota cars in terms of reliability were always made in Japan. I'll continue to drive my bulletproof '94 Camry without a worry.

**HemiEd** · 02-03-2010, 05:11 PM

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Ed, we've been through this already.

Yeah it just keeps going around in circles.

**Bugeater** · 02-03-2010, 06:31 PM

Interesting video here about what to do if this happens to you, although he's wrong about the steering locking if you turn the key too far, all cars today have an interlock that prevents the switch from going into the lock position unless it's in Park.

whoaskew · 02-04-2010, 12:12 AM

I was watching the Laker's game tonight and saw a Lexus commercial that I thought was pretty funny considering the sticky gas pedal recall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuD8-OUCRe8

I wonder how many people don't realize that Lexus cars are Toyotas with a different emblem on them

Norman Einstein · 02-04-2010, 06:22 AM

A few years ago I had a Camry that had cruise control put on after market. It was installed by Toyota but the installer was apparently not very good at the installation. The cruise would run fine then it would run full speed.

I used the afore mentioned turn the key off method to keep from wiping myself out along with my family. I would turn the car off and coast until I got down to 25 or so. I turned the key back on and got up to about 80 and repeated the process until I got to a stop sign. It was a 5 speed so to get away from the stop sign I had to clutch then start with an immediate release of the clutch. Who would have thought you could smoke the tires in any Toyota of the day?

The fix didn't work until they reinstalled the cruise from scratch, apparently one of the cables was too short and the guy spliced it, the splice caused the problem. Toyota would never admit they caused the problem, but they didn't charge for the fix.

jjjayb · 02-04-2010, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by whoaskew

I was watching the Laker's game tonight and saw a Lexus commercial that I thought was pretty funny considering the sticky gas pedal recall

I wonder how many people don't realize that Lexus cars are Toyotas with a different emblem on them

Oh my God that commercial is Hilarilous ina completely unintended way.

Funny too that they haven't recalled any of the Lexus vehicles when there have been complaints of the Lexus having the same issue.

**BigRedChief** · 02-04-2010, 02:58 PM

Toyota knew about the issue with the Prius brakes but didn't bother to tell their customers until the government forced them to.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/04/auto...dex.htm?hpt=T2

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Toyota has known about brake problems in its popular Prius cars for some time, going so far as to fix it in new production vehicles, but has kept Prius drivers in the dark about the problem until the Japanese government called for an investigation.

Prius hybrid cars coming off Toyota's assembly line in Japan have had an improved version of the software used to control the cars' brakes since January.

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HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $2780564	Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Accidents Caused by Sudden acceleration. Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Series of Accidents Caused by Sudden Acceleration Anyone else been following this story? They had a pretty graphic show on nightline about it last night. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Runawa...ory?id=8980479 Refusing to accept the explanation of Toyota and the federal government, hundreds of Toyota owners are in rebellion after a series of accidents caused by what they call "runaway cars." Share Department of Transportation: underlying defect causes accelerators to stick. More PhotosSafety analysts found an estimated 2000 cases in which owners of Toyota cars including Camry, Prius and Lexus, reported that their cars surged without warning up to speeds of 100 miles per hour. CLICK HERE FOR MORE OF THE RUNAWAY TOYOTAS STORY. Toyota says the incidents are caused by floor mats becoming stuck under gas pedals, but owners say that's not what happened to them. Watch the full report tonight on 'World News with Charles Gibson' and 'Nightline'. "I'm absolutely certain that in my situation, it was not the floor mats," Elizabeth James told ABC News. She was driving her Toyota Prius outside Denver, CO when she says it suddenly shot up to 90 miles an hour, even though her foot was on the brake and not the gas pedal. "I kept going faster and faster," James said. "And all of a sudden… my foot was pressing on the brake super, super hard and I wasn't slowing down." James and some other Toyota owners suspect the accidents have been caused by some kind of glitch in the electronic computer system used in Toyotas that controls the throttle. http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...at-recall.html Last edited by HemiEd; 11-04-2009 at 12:48 PM..
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Donger "Think BOOM!" Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W Casino cash: $9869900 VARSITY	I'd like to suggest the name of the next Toyota model: Christine. __________________ I think the young people enjoy it when I "get down," verbally, don't you?
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Tactical Funky Funkmeister Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Casino cash: $10005525	This is the sort of issue that can arise when a company expands too quickly and lessens oversight on parts suppliers - not to mention the best Toyota cars in terms of reliability were always made in Japan. I'll continue to drive my bulletproof '94 Camry without a worry. __________________ This is my signature.
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Bugeater The Maintenance Guy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Renovated Bugeater Estate Casino cash: $6232680	Interesting video here about what to do if this happens to you, although he's wrong about the steering locking if you turn the key too far, all cars today have an interlock that prevents the switch from going into the lock position unless it's in Park.
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whoaskew Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Casino cash: $8071930	I was watching the Laker's game tonight and saw a Lexus commercial that I thought was pretty funny considering the sticky gas pedal recall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuD8-OUCRe8 I wonder how many people don't realize that Lexus cars are Toyotas with a different emblem on them
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Norman Einstein MVP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Casino cash: $10004900	A few years ago I had a Camry that had cruise control put on after market. It was installed by Toyota but the installer was apparently not very good at the installation. The cruise would run fine then it would run full speed. I used the afore mentioned turn the key off method to keep from wiping myself out along with my family. I would turn the car off and coast until I got down to 25 or so. I turned the key back on and got up to about 80 and repeated the process until I got to a stop sign. It was a 5 speed so to get away from the stop sign I had to clutch then start with an immediate release of the clutch. Who would have thought you could smoke the tires in any Toyota of the day? The fix didn't work until they reinstalled the cruise from scratch, apparently one of the cables was too short and the guy spliced it, the splice caused the problem. Toyota would never admit they caused the problem, but they didn't charge for the fix.
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