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**RNR** · 06-20-2010, 06:12 PM

What say you?

CoMoChief · 07-04-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Weak is talking about this subject when you're a n00b and don't have a clue. That's weak.

results don't lie.

Yup, I dont have a clue yet you're the one spouting off the fight should have been stopped the first rd???

dumbass.

**SAUTO** · 07-04-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

Not any other fighter, but champions will have a little more leash then any other fighter and they SHOULD get that respect. It happens in Boxing and it happens in MMA.

Brock covered up for the flurries, once they were slowed down, he kept busy showing the ref that he wasnt out.

Its that simple. The ref did the RIGHT THING.

if champions get the benefit of the doubt then how did forrest beat rampage???

pr capone admits that would have been stopped in any other fight. well then it should have been stopped on this fight as well
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**RNR** · 07-04-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

if champions get the benefit of the doubt then how did forrest beat rampage???

pr capone admits that would have been stopped in any other fight. well then it should have been stopped on this fight as well
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You are going about it the right way. No sour grapes or name calling just pointing out it "could" have been stopped. I think most would agree with that. However the other guy went batshit crazy so people responded a little different~

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-04-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

I'm a tool and you want to see Tim SYLVIA fight Lesnar. I mean this board is beyond stuck on stupid when it comes to MMA.

I'm a Fightabulator and one the smartest F'ers on the F'n planet.

**SAUTO** · 07-04-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

You are going about it the right way. No sour grapes or name calling just pointing out it "could" have been stopped. I think most would agree with that. However the other guy went batshit crazy so people responded a little different~

thanks. i think that there is some protection for the ufc golden boys. some get more leeway than others. forrest for example.

like i said in the other thread i can respect brock a tiny bit after surviving and coming back BUT if big country beat kimbo while tapping on the guys head, hell the ref looked like he didnt know if biggun was punching or tapping out lol, then this fight should have been stopped cuz carwin was throwing bombs
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**pr_capone** · 07-04-2010, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

if champions get the benefit of the doubt then how did forrest beat rampage???

pr capone admits that would have been stopped in any other fight. well then it should have been stopped on this fight as well
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I never said that it was Lesnar that got the leeway. IMHO, the leeway was given because it was a title fight. Had it been Carwin on the bottom getting pounded like that, I believe the ref would have shown the same consideration.

**SAUTO** · 07-04-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

I never said that it was Lesnar that got the leeway. IMHO, the leeway was given because it was a title fight. Had it been Carwin on the bottom getting pounded like that, I believe the ref would have shown the same consideration.

i disagree about it being the same if carwin was on the ground. i feel as though the ufc is starting to somewhat protect the money guys. he wasnt out but it went past the point where most fights are stopped title or not.

the rules dont change for title fights, well except for going five rounds.
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ChiefsFanatic · 07-04-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i disagree about it being the same if carwin was on the ground. i feel as though the ufc is starting to somewhat protect the money guys. he wasnt out but it went past the point where most fights are stopped title or not.

the rules dont change for title fights, well except for going five rounds.
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The refs do not work for the UFC, they are employed by the state athletic commission.

Lesnar pushed Carwin away with his feet, at points covered up so well that Carwin was hitting only his arms, and it never looked like Lesnar just gave up while on the bottom. Perhaps the amazing Dan Mergliata would have stopped it, but I doubt the Herb Dean and McCarthy would have stopped it.

**pr_capone** · 07-04-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i disagree about it being the same if carwin was on the ground. i feel as though the ufc is starting to somewhat protect the money guys. he wasnt out but it went past the point where most fights are stopped title or not.

the rules dont change for title fights, well except for going five rounds.
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You have to remember that the UFC has no control over the judges. The judges are appointed by the state athletic commision. The judges do not take orders from the UFC or Dana White so the UFC does not control if/when a ref stops a bout.

**pr_capone** · 07-04-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

The refs do not work for the UFC, they are employed by the state athletic commission.

Lesnar pushed Carwin away with his feet, at points covered up so well that Carwin was hitting only his arms, and it never looked like Lesnar just gave up while on the bottom. Perhaps the amazing Dan Mergliata would have stopped it, but I doubt the Herb Dean and McCarthy would have stopped it.

THIS... is what I also typed but got hung up on a call at work.

KCUnited · 07-04-2010, 11:50 AM

White was angry when he saw Rosenthal in the cage before the main event and asked UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta how Rosenthal got the fight instead of Herb Dean, who he regards as the best referee in the history of mixed martial arts.

But Rosenthal showed good judgment and didn’t overreact, as many young referees might have in such a high pressure, high-profile situation. He was proven correct when Lesnar survived and then came back to choke out Carwin at 2:19 of the second round.

“Josh Rosenthal was fantastic and I want to apologize for badmouthing him before he did anything wrong,” White said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...ghtnight070310

**SAUTO** · 07-04-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

You have to remember that the UFC has no control over the judges. The judges are appointed by the state athletic commision. The judges do not take orders from the UFC or Dana White so the UFC does not control if/when a ref stops a bout.

funny, its always the same guys huh? if not for the ufc they wouldnt be getting paid now would they?
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**SAUTO** · 07-04-2010, 11:57 AM

and ref isnt the same as judge.
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BigCatDaddy · 07-04-2010, 11:58 AM

This in no rule that says because a guy if covering himself with his arms you must stop the fight. It's the refs decision and Josh had a better look at it then any of us at home and he made the right call, because obviously Brock wasn't done. He ended the round on his feet.

**SAUTO** · 07-04-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

White was angry when he saw Rosenthal in the cage before the main event and asked UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta how Rosenthal got the fight instead of Herb Dean, who he regards as the best referee in the history of mixed martial arts.

But Rosenthal showed good judgment and didn’t overreact, as many young referees might have in such a high pressure, high-profile situation. He was proven correct when Lesnar survived and then came back to choke out Carwin at 2:19 of the second round.

“Josh Rosenthal was fantastic and I want to apologize for badmouthing him before he did anything wrong,” White said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...ghtnight070310

why would dana ask fertita anything?? he had nothing to do with it right?
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KCUnited Cheat Death Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln Casino cash: $-1391756	White was angry when he saw Rosenthal in the cage before the main event and asked UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta how Rosenthal got the fight instead of Herb Dean, who he regards as the best referee in the history of mixed martial arts. But Rosenthal showed good judgment and didn’t overreact, as many young referees might have in such a high pressure, high-profile situation. He was proven correct when Lesnar survived and then came back to choke out Carwin at 2:19 of the second round. “Josh Rosenthal was fantastic and I want to apologize for badmouthing him before he did anything wrong,” White said. http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...ghtnight070310
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07-04-2010, 11:58 AM	#344
BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $-1570878	This in no rule that says because a guy if covering himself with his arms you must stop the fight. It's the refs decision and Josh had a better look at it then any of us at home and he made the right call, because obviously Brock wasn't done. He ended the round on his feet.
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