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duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Discuss Thrower · 08-27-2013, 02:50 PM

2014 is going to suck. No pitching. Same powerless offense.

**alnorth** · 08-27-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

2014 is going to suck. No pitching. Same powerless offense.

I can't really agree with this until Spring. I have a feeling that DM is going to do a lot of wheeling and dealing this off-season in an attempt to save his job.

Ebolapox · 08-27-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

I can't really agree with this until Spring. I have a feeling that DM is going to do a lot of wheeling and dealing this off-season in an attempt to save his job.

I'm not sure if I like this or am terrified of this...

**DeezNutz** · 08-27-2013, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

I can't really agree with this until Spring. I have a feeling that DM is going to do a lot of wheeling and dealing this off-season in an attempt to save his job.

Oh, great.

Discuss Thrower · 08-27-2013, 03:19 PM

Some poster on Royals Scout claims Santana was placed on Waivers..

siberian khatru · 08-27-2013, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

I can't really agree with this until Spring. I have a feeling that DM is going to do a lot of wheeling and dealing this off-season in an attempt to save his job.

He's gonna give Nelson Cruz a lot of money to suck in RF.

**alnorth** · 08-27-2013, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Some poster on Royals Scout claims Santana was placed on Waivers..

Almost every player in all of baseball is placed on waivers in August. Waivers work differently after the trading deadline. I bet Butler, Gordon, etc were all put on waivers too.

If he clears waivers, we gain the ability to trade him if we want. If someone claims him (which is pretty much guaranteed), we talk with that team to see if a deal can be reached, and if they don't give us what we want, we pull him off of waivers.

Tytanium · 08-27-2013, 03:27 PM

Bench coach Chino Cadihia has left the team for personal reasons. Being replaced by minors coach Tony Tijerina.

Discuss Thrower · 08-27-2013, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

Almost every player in all of baseball is placed on waivers in August. Waivers work differently after the trading deadline. I bet Butler, Gordon, etc were all put on waivers too.

If he clears waivers, we gain the ability to trade him if we want. If someone claims him (which is pretty much guaranteed), we talk with that team to see if a deal can be reached, and if they don't give us what we want, we pull him off of waivers.

I had to be refreshed on MLB waiver rules a while ago. My point is why the hell didn't DM market him, or Holland or Gordon back in July?

WhawhaWhat · 08-27-2013, 03:33 PM

Danny Duffy to pitch tomorrow, Wade Davis to the 'pen. Mike Moustakas to miss a few games due to strep.

Strep sucks balls and his highly contagious.

BlackHelicopters · 08-27-2013, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

I can't really agree with this until Spring. I have a feeling that DM is going to do a lot of wheeling and dealing this off-season in an attempt to save his job.

Now I am nauseated.

WhawhaWhat · 08-27-2013, 03:37 PM

Carlos Pena signed to minor league deal and will report to AAA.

Chiefspants · 08-27-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Carlos Pena signed to minor league deal and will report to AAA.

THE WHEELIN' AND DEALIN' BEGINS.

WhawhaWhat · 08-27-2013, 03:39 PM

2 corresponding moves will have to be made tomorrow to add Danny Duffy to the roster and bring back Luke Hochevar from paternity leave.

**alnorth** · 08-27-2013, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I had to be refreshed on MLB waiver rules a while ago. My point is why the hell didn't DM market him, or Holland or Gordon back in July?

We were still under the collective delusion that we could make the playoffs.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1450308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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