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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Repository, Version 1 ***



And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 07-28-2016, 09:43 AM   #3556
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If you let Moose walk with Cuthbert, Mondesi, and Sal on the cheap you should be just fine paying Hos.
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Old 07-28-2016, 09:44 AM   #3557
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For real? That'd be something. I've always been optimistic DM would be aggressive about it, I'd be surprised Boras would let that happen so soon though. At least Dayton would be buying low. It'd make sense though because Hos has clearly become the leader of this team. It'd create some security for the team, and other free agents we might want to sign.
The only thing real about it is what Boddicker said -- that he had a good source that told him they were close. Take that for what it's worth.
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Old 07-28-2016, 09:45 AM   #3558
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That would be horrible if they sign him for 100M+. I can't decide who is the most overrated player in the AL, Eric Hosmer or Alcides Escobar?

Hosmer's true value is probably 5/65, but of course he will get paid more. Anybody can play 1st base, and he's been horrible defensively anyway this year at it. The guys OPS is under .800 the last 4 years. He's never been 3.5 WAR. Don't pay it Dayton, don't do it.

9.6 WAR in his 6 year career. Jarrod Dyson has 10.2 in his last 6 years.
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Old 07-28-2016, 09:51 AM   #3559
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That would be horrible if they sign him for 100M+. I can't decide who is the most overrated player in the AL, Eric Hosmer or Alcides Escobar?

Hosmer's true value is probably 5/65, but of course he will get paid more. Anybody can play 1st base, and he's been horrible defensively anyway this year at it. The guys OPS is under .800 the last 4 years. He's never been 3.5 WAR. Don't pay it Dayton, don't do it.

9.6 WAR in his 6 year career. Jarrod Dyson has 10.2 in his last 6 years.
The best comp is Brandon Belt. Similar skillsets. Both he and Hos have 6 years service; Hos is 18 months younger. Belt career bWAR: 15.5; Hos 10.2. Both have rings. Hos seen as a team leader/community figure.

In April the Giants signed Belt to a 5-year, $79 million extension. He gets $6.2M this year, $8.8M next year. Then in 2018 his salary escalates to $16M per year thru 2021 (age 33 season).
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Old 07-28-2016, 09:53 AM   #3560
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That would be horrible if they sign him for 100M+. I can't decide who is the most overrated player in the AL, Eric Hosmer or Alcides Escobar?

Hosmer's true value is probably 5/65, but of course he will get paid more. Anybody can play 1st base, and he's been horrible defensively anyway this year at it. The guys OPS is under .800 the last 4 years. He's never been 3.5 WAR. Don't pay it Dayton, don't do it.

9.6 WAR in his 6 year career. Jarrod Dyson has 10.2 in his last 6 years.
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Old 07-28-2016, 09:55 AM   #3561
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So now the speculation is that trading Kennedy would free up money for a Hos extension (which would fit with Boddicker's nugget yesterday on 810 that the two sides are "close").
the 2 sides as in Hos and the Royals?
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Old 07-28-2016, 09:56 AM   #3562
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the 2 sides as in Hos and the Royals?
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Old 07-28-2016, 09:56 AM   #3563
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For real? That'd be something. I've always been optimistic DM would be aggressive about it, I'd be surprised Boras would let that happen so soon though. At least Dayton would be buying low. It'd make sense though because Hos has clearly become the leader of this team. It'd create some security for the team, and other free agents we might want to sign.
This is what I was thinking. No way in hell Boras has Hos sign a deal with the Royals until at least mid-season next year. And then only if Hos is sucking.
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Old 07-28-2016, 10:06 AM   #3564
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The Kennedy rumor is just confusing as hell. You create a hole in your rotation for 2017+ that you previously had filled. Do you turn around and sign Volquez to an extension to avoid having 2 holes to fill?

By including Kennedy's salary in a deal with Davis, you likely are receiving fewer or less-quality prospects -- such as guys who can fill those rotation holes. And rather than use Kennedy's salary relief to sign pitching -- which BTW, next year's FA crop is awful -- you're gonna use it to sign Hos?

Hell, maybe the juiced ball has DM rethinking his flyball pitcher strategy and he's looking to reverse course.

It's like a damn Rubik's cube.
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Old 07-28-2016, 10:11 AM   #3565
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Unloading IK's salary to the Dodgers just to resign Hos would be the most hilarious thing DM has done yet. Not only would the Royals be taking themselves out of any hopes for a top prospect in return, but seriously who in their right minds wants Eric Hosmer here with his current numbers and a contract that he will never live up to? He is one of the most overrated players in the entire game.
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This is what I was thinking. No way in hell Boras has Hos sign a deal with the Royals until at least mid-season next year. And then only if Hos is sucking.
Signing an extension could actually be strategic on Hosmer's part. It could be an extension with an option in 2019, to protect if he has a big year. He may believe he can hit 30 HR in 2018 or something, and the opt out would be to guarantee dollars to the team that values him the most.
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Old 07-28-2016, 10:14 AM   #3567
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The Kennedy rumor is just confusing as hell. You create a hole in your rotation for 2017+ that you previously had filled. Do you turn around and sign Volquez to an extension to avoid having 2 holes to fill?

By including Kennedy's salary in a deal with Davis, you likely are receiving fewer or less-quality prospects -- such as guys who can fill those rotation holes. And rather than use Kennedy's salary relief to sign pitching -- which BTW, next year's FA crop is awful -- you're gonna use it to sign Hos?

Hell, maybe the juiced ball has DM rethinking his flyball pitcher strategy and he's looking to reverse course.

It's like a damn Rubik's cube.
Kennedy is a hole in the rotation now and next year. He has had a little better success in the NL and the Dodgers wouldn't be scared of him. He is probably a neutral factor in a trade with LA.
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The Kennedy rumor is just confusing as hell. You create a hole in your rotation for 2017+ that you previously had filled. Do you turn around and sign Volquez to an extension to avoid having 2 holes to fill?

By including Kennedy's salary in a deal with Davis, you likely are receiving fewer or less-quality prospects -- such as guys who can fill those rotation holes. And rather than use Kennedy's salary relief to sign pitching -- which BTW, next year's FA crop is awful -- you're gonna use it to sign Hos?

Hell, maybe the juiced ball has DM rethinking his flyball pitcher strategy and he's looking to reverse course.

It's like a damn Rubik's cube.
Wiping Kennedy off the books would be amazing, IMO and would be a genius move if it happened.
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So Dodgers have interest in Davis and they have interesting pieces that could help us next year - Julio Urias would have to headline the deal, maybe you can get outfield by adding Verdugo/Bellinger or you do something to acquire De Leon by throwing a prospect back.
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Unloading IK's salary to the Dodgers just to resign Hos would be the most hilarious thing DM has done yet. Not only would the Royals be taking themselves out of any hopes for a top prospect in return, but seriously who in their right minds wants Eric Hosmer here with his current numbers and a contract that he will never live up to? He is one of the most overrated players in the entire game.
Yep. So let's unpack the reasons why: it all starts with DM spending too much for this market. He expected huge attendance this year and he's gotten it. But he's seeing lotsa empties now and it'll fall off a lot for next year.



He boxed himself in with atrocious deals for Alex and Young and Soria so he has to start cutting. Wade + Ian = 25M next year. Has to be done now. DM gambled that spending would work but The players ensured it failed
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