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Old 04-08-2014, 03:37 PM   #3571
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Why not bring up Colon and send down one of our worthless relievers?
Seriously, though.

What do they do in that situation?

If Valencia goes down, I mean. Not Escobar.

Move Gordon to 3rd and Moose to 2nd? Legitimate question.
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Old 04-08-2014, 03:38 PM   #3572
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What else can be done to enhance the fan experience? What do the people want? (besides a consistent winner)

My wife and I love going to just sit and watch the game so it is hard for me to perceive what others would want as part of the experience.
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Old 04-08-2014, 03:54 PM   #3573
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What else can be done to enhance the fan experience? What do the people want? (besides a consistent winner)

My wife and I love going to just sit and watch the game so it is hard for me to perceive what others would want as part of the experience.
1) Win
2) Stop doing cheesy shit like "random 6th inning manufactured song tradition contest"
3) Be active and engaged in the community
4) Improve the ballpark experience (top notch customer service, great concessions)
5) Build traditions (you can't tell me they can't find something similar to the cauldron to build a tradition in an outfield section. Do it based on the Royals and not on an individual player or something)

Just quick things that come to mind. Winning is most important.

Far fewer would go to SKC games if they were losing 3-0 every week.
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Old 04-08-2014, 03:56 PM   #3574
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So where is the 25% increase in ticket prices being spent?
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Old 04-08-2014, 03:57 PM   #3575
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Develop a star, which hopefully we'll see the beginnings of tonight. Greinke was a fairly decent draw on some shit teams. Also, how about somebody hit it over the wall with some consistency, that brings people out.
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Old 04-08-2014, 04:03 PM   #3576
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1) Win
2) Stop doing cheesy shit like "random 6th inning manufactured song tradition contest"
3) Be active and engaged in the community
4) Improve the ballpark experience (top notch customer service, great concessions)
5) Build traditions (you can't tell me they can't find something similar to the cauldron to build a tradition in an outfield section. Do it based on the Royals and not on an individual player or something)

Just quick things that come to mind. Winning is most important.

Far fewer would go to SKC games if they were losing 3-0 every week.
I know you are passionate about this, but I gotta pick this apart a little bit. #1 seems to be the only thing needed in your list, and thats not exactly easy.

Just about everyone does #2. Doing #2 does not harm attendance at all. I don't think #3 would do much. They are fine on 4 and 5. The concessions are good, and I don't think there's anything inherently superior with doing something unique in a section that doesn't involve a player vs does involve a player. If SKC was a losing team, the cauldron would be lifeless and dorky, just like Gordonation.

If the team wins almost every year, that would fix everything.
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Old 04-08-2014, 04:05 PM   #3577
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1) Win
2) Stop doing cheesy shit like "random 6th inning manufactured song tradition contest"
3) Be active and engaged in the community
4) Improve the ballpark experience (top notch customer service, great concessions)
5) Build traditions (you can't tell me they can't find something similar to the cauldron to build a tradition in an outfield section. Do it based on the Royals and not on an individual player or something)

Just quick things that come to mind. Winning is most important.

Far fewer would go to SKC games if they were losing 3-0 every week.
1 - That is obvious and is the most important, but I was thinking what else.
2 - I don't think that keeps people from coming. Do you? You don't have to stop that in order to add other things.
3 - That would help. I am not sure how or in what way that is accomplished. Any ideas?
4 - They have definitely been trying that and I think with some success. People really enjoy the outfield. Lowering the cost of food would be something that I would think would increase attendance though.
5 - The Frenchy quarter? You didn't like that?!!
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Old 04-08-2014, 04:31 PM   #3578
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1 - That is obvious and is the most important, but I was thinking what else.
2 - I don't think that keeps people from coming. Do you? You don't have to stop that in order to add other things.
3 - That would help. I am not sure how or in what way that is accomplished. Any ideas?
4 - They have definitely been trying that and I think with some success. People really enjoy the outfield. Lowering the cost of food would be something that I would think would increase attendance though.
5 - The Frenchy quarter? You didn't like that?!!
#2, it's not literally keeping people from coming... but their marketing is shit... shit shit... and isn't helping AT ALL. The appeal this team\club has is that it's the hometown team that has been here for the majority if not all of our lives. And that's hand wrapped and delivered for them... no effort on their part.

#3, having experienced SKC the past couple of years... holy shit does it make a difference. SKC was not a consistent, proven commodity when they built that stadium... they were a decent team... but not an elite team... The Ownership showed passion, ingenuity in their marketing... They engaged with Fans.. they promoted themselves as fans alongside.. and that completely lit a fire under this fanbase to immediately draw sellout after sellout once rebranded with the new stadium.. This ownership group is ridiculously intelligent and I have little doubt in my mind that they would make the entire Royals experience a freaking hot ticket in this town... with. out. a. doubt.

#4 Lowering the cost of food isn't really necessary... if you're at a game for 4 hours drinking beer... people are going to spend money on food.. especially if they are enjoying themselves... There are 100's of other things you can do....

With the interactive phone app... you sign into your seat in the stadium by scanning the barcode on your seat... then you can play games, do trivia, etc against others in the stadium... you can Order food delivered directly to your seat, paid for by your membership card. You can order a jersey from the shop, and someone will bring it to your seat for you. A freaking members Bar in the stadium... for pre-game warmup and post-game celebrations. Mind you these members are the CHEAPEST ticket on in the place. The Owner will actually hang out with the freaking fans before games. They'll get appearances from players etc. They have watch parties for away games in the club. etc.... Cutting edge shit like that, where SKC just takes it above and beyond. It engages everyone and makes you not just a spectator... but a part of the whole experience and organization. It's ****ing amazing. Imagine this shit with the Royals... My first love.
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I've said this many times, but I think that having the Royals be on TV for nearly every home game hurts gate attendance. It wasn't t that way when I was growing up there. You had to listen to them on the radio or actually go to the games.

Especially in a small market like the KC area.
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Old 04-08-2014, 05:09 PM   #3580
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What else can be done to enhance the fan experience? What do the people want? (besides a consistent winner)

My wife and I love going to just sit and watch the game so it is hard for me to perceive what others would want as part of the experience.
Win, which gets more fans to the games. More fans = more excitement.
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Old 04-08-2014, 05:14 PM   #3581
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I've said this many times, but I think that having the Royals be on TV for nearly every home game hurts gate attendance. It wasn't t that way when I was growing up there. You had to listen to them on the radio or actually go to the games.

Especially in a small market like the KC area.
Problem then is it's out of sight, out of mind in this day and age. Maybe you're right though.

I'd certainly have no qualms if Glass sold the team to the right person. I don't believe we'd magically be fighting the Phillies and and Red Sox in the payroll wars though. It might help boost attendance because of Glass' reputation though.

But even then, the most important thing is hiring competent baseball people. Glass has spent more than enough to put a winner on the field over the last decade, and spent more than almost anyone on the draft. There are multiple teams it seems almost every year making the playoffs while spending less money. The A's, Rays, Pirates... etc. I believe the Rockies spent less than KC when they went to the Series. On and on.
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Old 04-08-2014, 05:21 PM   #3582
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Problem then is it's out of sight, out of mind in this day and age. Maybe you're right though.
Yea, understand. You cant go back.

Plus, theres alot more competition now for entertainment dollars than back in the 70s and 80s that the Royals have to contend with. Maybe they just havent aged well?

Of course, winning cures all........
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#2, it's not literally keeping people from coming... but their marketing is shit... shit shit... and isn't helping AT ALL. The appeal this team\club has is that it's the hometown team that has been here for the majority if not all of our lives. And that's hand wrapped and delivered for them... no effort on their part.

#3, having experienced SKC the past couple of years... holy shit does it make a difference. SKC was not a consistent, proven commodity when they built that stadium... they were a decent team... but not an elite team... The Ownership showed passion, ingenuity in their marketing... They engaged with Fans.. they promoted themselves as fans alongside.. and that completely lit a fire under this fanbase to immediately draw sellout after sellout once rebranded with the new stadium.. This ownership group is ridiculously intelligent and I have little doubt in my mind that they would make the entire Royals experience a freaking hot ticket in this town... with. out. a. doubt.

#4 Lowering the cost of food isn't really necessary... if you're at a game for 4 hours drinking beer... people are going to spend money on food.. especially if they are enjoying themselves... There are 100's of other things you can do....

With the interactive phone app... you sign into your seat in the stadium by scanning the barcode on your seat... then you can play games, do trivia, etc against others in the stadium... you can Order food delivered directly to your seat, paid for by your membership card. You can order a jersey from the shop, and someone will bring it to your seat for you. A freaking members Bar in the stadium... for pre-game warmup and post-game celebrations. Mind you these members are the CHEAPEST ticket on in the place. The Owner will actually hang out with the freaking fans before games. They'll get appearances from players etc. They have watch parties for away games in the club. etc.... Cutting edge shit like that, where SKC just takes it above and beyond. It engages everyone and makes you not just a spectator... but a part of the whole experience and organization. It's ****ing amazing. Imagine this shit with the Royals... My first love.
You did a much better job than I did describing some of the great things SKC does that I think would be huge and helpful factors in boosting the fan attendance.

You're obviously far more familiar than I am with SKC. I'll never be a fan because I just don't dig "major" league soccer (that is the equivalent of High A baseball or MAC football), and I don't like soccer enough as a sport to enjoy lower level comp.

But I was still blown away by the atmosphere they've created there and the small touches that line things up so well for the fans.
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