**** OFFICIAL 2014-2015 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread

[ArrowheadHawk]

11 straight Conference Championships!

Ranking #9 (26-8,13-5)

Non-Con Schedule (11-2)

Spoiler!

11/14/2014 UC Santa Barbara Lawrence, Kan. W 69-59 (1-0)
11/18/2014 Kentucky Indianapolis, Ind. L 40-72 (1-1)
Orlando Classic
11/24/2014 Rider Lawrence, Kan. W 87-60 (2-1)
11/27/2014 Rhode Island Orlando, Fla. W 76-60 (3-1)
11/28/2014 Tennessee Orlando, Fla. W 82-67 (4-1)
11/30/2014 Michigan State Orlando, Fla. W 61-56 (5-1)
12/5/2014 Florida Lawrence, Kan. W 71-65 (6-1)
12/10/2014 Georgetown Washington, DC W 75-70 (7-1)
12/13/2014 Utah Kansas City, Mo. W 63-60 (8-1)
12/20/2014 Lafayette Lawrence, Kan. W 96-69 (9-1)
12/22/2014 Temple Philadelphia, PA L 52-77 (9-2)
12/30/2014 Kent State Lawrence, Kan. W 78-62 (10-2)
1/4/2015 UNLV Lawrence, Kan. W 76-61 (11-2)

Conference Schedule

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1/7/2015 Baylor Waco, Texas W 56-55 (12-2,1-0)
1/10/2015 Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. W 86-54 (13-2,2-0)
1/13/2015 Oklahoma State Lawrence, Kan. W 67-57 (14-2,3-0)
1/17/2015 Iowa State Ames, Iowa L 81-86 (14-3,3-1)
1/19/2015 Oklahoma Lawrence, Kan. W 85-78 (15-3,4-1)
1/24/2015 Texas Austin, Texas W 75-62 (16-3,5-1)
1/28/2015 TCU Fort Worth, Texas W 64-61(17-3,6-1)
1/31/2015 Kansas State Lawrence, Kan. W 68-57(18-3,7-1)
2/2/2015 Iowa State Lawrence, Kan. W 89-76(19-3,8-1)
2/7/2015 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. L 62-67(19-4,8-2)
2/10/2015 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas W 73-51(20-4,9-2)
2/14/2015 Baylor Lawrence, Kan. W 74-64(21-4,10-2)
2/16/2015 West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. L 61-62(21-5,10-3)
2/21/2015 TCU Lawrence, Kan. W 81-72(22-5,11-3)
2/23/2015 Kansas State Manhattan, Kan. L 63-70(22-6,11-4)
2/28/2015 Texas Lawrence, Kan. W 69-64(23-6,12-4)
3/3/2015 West Virginia Lawrence, Kan. W 76-69(24-6,12-4)
3/7/2015 Oklahoma Norman, Okla. L 73-75(24-7,12-5)
Big 12 Championship
3/12/2015 TCU Kansas City, Mo. W 64-59(25-7)
3/13/2015 Baylor KC, Mo W 62-52(26-7)
3/14/2015 Iowa State KC, Mo W 66-70(25-8)

Fri, March 20 NMSU at Kansas Omaha, NE CBS at 11:15a.m. CT

Players

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New Players
Hunter Mickelson - F Transfer
Cliff Alexander - 5 Star C
Kelly Oubre - 5 Star F/G
Devonte Graham - 4 Star PG
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk - (Not Ranked but equivalent to 5 Star) G

Players Lost
Tarik Black - Graduation
Andrew Wiggins - NBA Draft
Joel Embiid - NBA Draft
Justin Wesley - Graduation
Niko Roberts - Graduation
Christian Garrett - Graduation
Naadir Tharpe - Transfer
Andrew White - Transfer
Conner Frankamp - Transfer

Returning Starters
Wayne Selden, Jr. - G - Sophmore
Perry Ellis - F - Junior

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by sedated

Don't let facts stand in the way of hope.

$6.076 million is a LITTLE bit more than a few hundred thousand. And that's just the guaranteed money. And both of those are more than he would make playing for free.

No, I was off... the market has definitely changed recently and I'm not as up to date as I thought.

What doesn't change - he'll probably be making 8-12 mil per in his second contract... so that's a wash, no?

The biggest key is getting that 2nd long-term or 3rd short-term contract to end before he's through his prime. If you're 29 or 30 and a FA you can still make quite a bit of money... gotta get to the end of those contracts before he progresses into the 30's, unless you're an elite player (then obviously it won't matter).

They key to making the money is getting that service time started. The whole point of what I was stating is that for a guy like Embiid or Smart... it's not about your slot... or being ready... it's about getting that clock started. They're gonna get drafted high... very high. Start the clock and make your money off of potential. That's the business of it.

As a fan, I agree with everyone else that it sucks to see kids go early that aren't ready... but that's the reality of it, and that's why it's a smart decision on their part. Despite how we as fans want to twist the reasonings towards staying being "smart". It's selfishness on our part to want to believe what we're saying.

[Prison Bitch]

Zeke, I would add to that all the ancillary money Wiggins will get. If he gets a shoe deal which is likely, you could be adding another $50M or something to his haul. Embiid will probably get some type of deal as well.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Zeke, I would add to that all the ancillary money Wiggins will get. If he gets a shoe deal which is likely, you could be adding another $50M or something to his haul. Embiid will probably get some type of deal as well.

Ya, but honestly... that is so arbitrary. player A may have a shoe deal that pays 50 mil over 4-5 years and player B may have a local advertising deal with a car audio installation shop... That's extremely tough to quantify. But yes, the capacity is there for that.

[Prison Bitch]

It is arbitrary and extremely varied but at least in Wiggins' case, it's a no-doubter that he's going to get a big endorsement deal. Getting to the 2nd contract is one part of him leaving but that other big payout is another. Anyone suggesting he come back is literally insane. And irrelevant of course since he's always said he is leaving.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I don't believe any of that stuff about being "exposed" if you stay. NBA scouts are the best in the business and they are not fooled all that easily.

Adam Morrison, Michael Olowokandi, Kwame Brown, Marcus Fizer, Hasheem Thabeet, and Jonny Flynn all agree.

[RustShack]

He gone.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by sedated

Adam Morrison, Michael Olowokandi, Kwame Brown, Marcus Fizer, Hasheem Thabeet, and Jonny Flynn all agree.

The long run track record of NBA draft selections is extremely accurate, and comparing top-10 picks vs later picks bears that out with no dispute. Pointing to the exceptions never disproves the rule.

[silver5liter]

Originally Posted by RustShack

He gone.

Still not official yet, but more than likely

[Buehler445]

Embiid or wiggins

[Bambi]

Anyone know what number Turner is going to wear?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Embiid or wiggins

I mean, let's face it. They're both leaving.

We can be pleasantly surprised if one of them shocks the world and comes back, but it's probably better to at this point just look to next year without either of them.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

The long run track record of NBA draft selections is extremely accurate, and comparing top-10 picks vs later picks bears that out with no dispute. Pointing to the exceptions never disproves the rule.

Everyone I mentioned was in the top 10, most in the top 5. And I didn’t include foreigners who make up a significant portion of busts. (Darko was taken over Melo, Bosh, and Wade).

You give NBA scouts too much credit, especially considering the small pool compared to football and baseball. Saying Lebron, Rose, Durant, etc were worth a high draft pick isn’t exactly rocket science.

(That is all assuming, of course, that you are a real person and not just a troll)

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Anyone know what number Turner is going to wear?

This is why I’m not sure why people are freaking out so much. I mean it would be great to have Embiid back for his sophomore year, but we have a top 5 guy in the class ready to step in when he leaves.

[silver5liter]

Originally Posted by sedated

This is why I’m not sure why people are freaking out so much. I mean it would be great to have Embiid back for his sophomore year, but we have a top 5 guy in the class ready to step in when he leaves.

sophomore embiid > Freshman (still not signed) Myles

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by SNR

I mean, let's face it. They're both leaving.

We can be pleasantly surprised if one of them shocks the world and comes back, but it's probably better to at this point just look to next year without either of them.

Oh I am. They're both gone. I was wondering of there were confirmation on one or the other.