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03-30-2013, 09:18 AM | #346 |
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03-30-2013, 09:23 AM | #347 |
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I just love that argument. "Matt Ryan blows because he loses in the playoffs." JFC for the record, his playoff losses have come to Arizona (should have won the Super Bowl), Packers (won the Super Bowl), Giants (won the Super Bowl) and the 49ers (probably should have won the Super Bowl)... so yeah, he is 1-4 and lost while holding the #1 seed twice against the Packers (who no one was going to beat) and the 49ers (where he played a pretty good game)... but the idea that Matt Ryan isn't, at the very least, a very good and capable QB is ****ing nonsense. He's 5 years into his career and he has shown great consistency and at least passes the god damn eye test. I can't wait for someone to tell me they'd take Joe Flacco over Matt Ryan because Flacco has postseason success. This board makes me want to gauge my eyes out sometimes. |
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03-30-2013, 09:26 AM | #349 |
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I mean, ****.
I simply can't stand this websites fixation with the insanely flawed premise of "a QB is only good if his postseason record is good." It's ****ing stupid. |
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03-30-2013, 09:38 AM | #350 |
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03-30-2013, 09:39 AM | #351 |
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let me hear you say it Dave you'd take Joe Flacco over Matt Ryan. Go. |
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I'll ask you: Who's had more to work with on their team? Matt Ryan is clearly a better regular season QB. Flacco has had more success in the playoffs. People don't remember the regular season. There are no trophies for that. It's all about the SB. |
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03-30-2013, 09:50 AM | #353 |
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so then you'd take Joe Flacco over every single NFL QB.
Got it. |
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03-30-2013, 09:50 AM | #354 |
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I don't think it's wrong to value a QB that wins when it matters. I'd take a QB that throws only 3100 yards and 21 TDs, over a 4000 30 plus TD QB if the first QB was clutch in the playoffs. I know winning is a team thing, and you can't blame or credit a QB completely for wins and losses, but there is something to be said for a QB that makes the right plays in big games.
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well I'm not counting the Rahim Moore miracle as a clutch play. It was a hail mary that worked. ...other than that, I just don't see what Joe Flacco did this postseason that was so unbelievably remarkable. The Colts were clearly inferior. He played well against Denver but down the stretch they were practically R2P2...to the point where people were criticizing Caldwell for his playcalling...and they ended up winning because of a terrible Manning play. New England couldn't convert a 3rd and short all game long...Flacco played good but the Ravens defense held a potent New England offense in check an entire game...and kept them in the game in the 1st half when the Ravens couldn't get anything going on offense... and then he played a great half against the 49ers and they almost "Matt Ryan'd" the game when Kaepernick was 1st and Goal to win the Super Bowl only for the Ravens defense to AGAIN step up.. so yes, Joe Flacco had a very efficient postseason. But outside of the Rahim Moore nonsense...where exactly did Joe Flacco make these "clutch" plays? When did he have an Eli Manning postseason moment? If you want to count Rahim Moore's worst play in NFL history, so be it... but outside of the Denver game, they were the best TEAM in every game they played. God damn I can't wait for 2013 so Flacco can be Flacco and I can stop having to debate this fallacy of him being elite. |
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