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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-17-2012, 08:16 PM   #346
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Pioli didn't even get the best WR named Baldwin in that draft, so far.

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Old 07-17-2012, 08:17 PM   #347
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:17 PM   #348
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Shit, I missed this earlier.

Of ****ing course I would.
Can you imagine sacrificing Bailey or Baldwin, the latter of whom is the greatest 21-catch rookie in the history of the mother****ing league, for the legit chance of having a franchise QB?
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Did you watch Hudson play? GoChiefs, what does PFF say about Hudsons limited playing time?
Basically 3 games, one good one, one lousy one, one average one.

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Did you watch Hudson play? GoChiefs, what does PFF say about Hudsons limited playing time?
I recall Hudson playing good the 1 start then I want to say the next game he was average. The other few times he played well you can't really base anything on that.
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First off, I'm not putting Baldwin up there with Jones, talent wise.


I'm just saying that it's probably a little different being thrown to by Cassel vs. Ryan.
I took Julio Jones 6th overall in the CP mock.

He is better than Baldwin, but the difference between the two is negligible.
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I took Julio Jones 6th overall in the CP mock.

He is better than Baldwin, but the difference between the two is negligible.
Orly?
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He is better than Baldwin, but the difference between the two is negligible.
I bet Julio Jones would have knocked Thomas Jones the **** out.
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Baldwin hasn't done shit man.



I'm optimistic but this is crazy.
He showed great potential. Especially for a guy who had an even shorter than already short training camp, missed first 7 weeks, finished season with limited snaps.

The most you can hope for in that situation is that the guy shows you something, he did. Made some spectacular plays.
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I think Baldwin is talented but outside of a few acrobatic catches, one that didn't even count, he hasn't done shit.
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Anyway back to topic.



I would have given Bowe 47 mil guaranteed. I think he's better than Vjax, but not that next level.
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I took Julio Jones 6th overall in the CP mock.

He is better than Baldwin, but the difference between the two is negligible.
What the ****?

Jones -
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...82/julio-jones

Baldwin -
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...86/jon-baldwin
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On topic, I've stated over and over that I'd give Bowe 8/100 40-45 guaranteed...but I'm not giving him 130-160 million with 50-60 million.
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Stats wise not close.



Maybe they are both somewhat in the same ballpark physically, but it's a big ballpark. It ain't no Crawford boxes.
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